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My Mac Pro does not seem to have a mic in anywhere on it. Maybe Ill just have to purloin Toodles old laptop..... I will get a plan together ha ha ha Merry Christmas.
de Paul N0NBD


Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Hello Steve, all:
The mrx software sounds interesting!
I have Windows, Linux and I phones/ iPads running.
Would be interesting to see how this software would run across the different platforms!
Looks like we're in for some experimentation.
72
Johnny AC0BQ



On Thursday, December 24, 2015, 'Stephen Smith' sigcom@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
CW over the Internet is fun.  And it has already been done for us.  IMNSHO, CW Communicator by MRX Software is the best Morse over Internet application, bar none.  It was invented by a ham, John Samin VK1EME.  There is no need to join EchoLink or any other system, the CW Comm. applications stands alone

<http://www.mrx.com.au/> home page
<http://www.mrx.com.au/d_cwcom.htm>  download page
<http://morsecode.dyndns.org/index.html> see all users active on system

The application is free, small and works w/ Windows only.

The input can be a key/paddle, the keyboard "down arrow", mouse buttons (iambic), keyboard alpha-numeric input or a text file.

The key/paddle interface is simple and designed for serial port.  If you have USB only, a serial to usb convertor is necessary.

Reception is by audio tone (sine wave, variable frequency), blinking LED and/or PC monitor screen.  The incomming code can be slowed down (or sped up) without having the sending operator QRS or QRQ.

Many hams and non-hams alike all over the globe are on the system.  Plenty of 'room' is available for QSOs; there are 64000 'channels'.  There is also code practice running almost continuously on several channels.

I'm certain I've left something out but the web site pretty much explains things.

73.......Steve Smith WB6TNL

From: "wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...>
To: "4sqrp@..." <4sqrp@...>
Subject: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:20:43 -0600

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA



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Re: What I've been working on...

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Nice Project Dan!
Your work looks good.
I built the beta of the g59 geniuses a few years ago, and it took most of a whole winter!
Go easy on the solder and have lots of wick around, it works miracles!

I have a couple of Diz's 1 watters on the bench, the 20 m is working, and the 15 m is in the test and tune stage!
Lots of QRPp fun for a low end price!
Merry Christmas guys
Johnny AC0BQ


On Thursday, December 24, 2015, on30ng@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

About time to start the "What are you working on?" thread...


I started a very ambitious -- maybe too ambitious?? - project called the mcHF Transceiver. It is an 80-10 open source SDR transceiver design utilizing (2) PCB's in a very compact arrangement. Sort of a poor man's KX3 if you will. It is almost entirely SMD. Very few through hole parts. And the MCU - ugh a QFP 100 chip! I messed up my first UI board & MCU...


This time I started with the RF board and am doing much better. Lots of patience, 0.015" solder, flux, bamboo tweezers and very fine tips in my Metcal solder station...


Here's my Google photo album: https://goo.gl/photos/snK5Ya2pm4yGvSv9A

Look in the LO section - at U9 & U12/U13. Those were murder! BTW, the four pictures of completed boards are Gavin's, M1BXF. I have those in my album for reference purposes...


My goal is to have it done by Ozarkcon and show it off there. I'm going very slow, one section at a time. I double check the schematic, the BOM and my home made board layout diagrams. I also clean off the flux with every section. And I inspect each solder joint with a 10x loupe (sometimes it's even hard to see with that!). My phone has also been helpful. Sometimes you can snap a pic then display it all blown up on the computer screen.

It has been both challenging and rewarding. Oh, I also 3D printed the case. There are designs for that. I actually had to "expand" the printing bed of my printer twice to accomplish that! Ha, ha! 


This design has a very active Yahoo Group: 

https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/M0NKA-mcHF/conversations/messages

Chris M0NKA is the designer & did the original programming

http://www.m0nka.co.uk/ 

Clint KA7OEI has done all the most recent programming (and adding functionality)

http://ka7oei.blogspot.com/search/label/mcHF%20SDR%20transceiver

mcHF

mcHF
Lest anyone thinks I only like ancient radio here is one of the most modern - and greatest. 3d printed case. Complete SDR QRP transceiver, with own scree...
Preview by Yahoo


Dan  --  KB9JLO

<><



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72
JOHNNY AC0BQ  ..




Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

Cliff Fox (KU4GW)
 

I used to do some Morse via the web running this small program called CWCom available for free at 
http://www.mrx.com.au/d_cwcom.htm It has different rooms or servers to enter to find someone to talk to which brings me to why I rarely used it. A lot of the time I couldn't find anyone else online to do code with. You can wire a key to use, but I never did because you can use the down arrow on the computer keyboard for a straight key.
There's also a website at http://internetcw.weebly.com/ that allows CW over the internet, You have to build a sound card interface or a sidetone generator to use with it. I like the easiest way which is why I liked CWCom by MRX Software the best. Food for thought! 

Merry Christmas everyone!
Very 72 de KU4GW Cliff 
4SQRP#536

 



Re: What I've been working on...

Don Wilhelm <w3fpr@...>
 

Dan and all,

I would not "lay down a small puddle of solder" on more than one pad.  That puddle of solder on the diagonal lead can keep the other IC leads from seating firmly onto the board traces.  Limit the "small puddle of solder" to one lead only.  Once that lead is soldered in place, then go to the diagonally opposite pin and solder that too.

Then there is the "flood with solder, then remove the excess with solder wick" -  that method does work well in many cases.  Check carefully with magnification to assure that no solder bridges are present if you use that method.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2015 5:43 PM, Dan Reynolds on30ng@... [4sqrp] wrote:
 
Terry, thanks. As complicated as SMD soldering is I find it very cathartic. It requires so much concentration that you HAVE to shut everything else out and except on the teeny-tiniest ones it's just a matter of working through it.

I use the "puddle" method. I lay down a little puddle of solder on one pad (two diagonally opposite pads for an IC). Then I maneuver the part into position and apply heat to 'sink' the part into the puddle. You can actually build up a rhythm doing it that way. I can even line up several parts in a row and nail them down without jiggling the others out of position. Someone told me about the bamboo tweezers. I heard that the BEST 20 & 21 tweezers were good and being wooden they are not magnetic, conductive and are static free. They hold firmly but hardly ever 'shoot' the parts out. And they're cheeeep on that watery auction site.
The only problem I've discovered with this particular board set is that the copper must be low weight. It lifts very easily (found that on the board I ruined). So you have to be very careful with solder wick or you'll tear a pad off. That plus they're small pads!




Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

WA0ITP
 

Thanks Steve, this sounds perfect. Could you write up a little list of baby steps to get us started? The CW Communicator sounds pretty good for roundtable chats, or a meeting place if I read. it right.


72 Terry WAØITP

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Stephen Smith' sigcom@juno.com [4sqrp] <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
To: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:55:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

CW over the Internet is fun. And it has already been done for us. IMNSHO, CW Communicator by MRX Software is the best Morse over Internet application, bar none. It was invented by a ham, John Samin VK1EME. There is no need to join EchoLink or any other system, the CW Comm. applications stands alone

<http://www.mrx.com.au/>; home page
<http://www.mrx.com.au/d_cwcom.htm>; download page
<http://morsecode.dyndns.org/index.html>; see all users active on system

The application is free, small and works w/ Windows only.

The input can be a key/paddle, the keyboard "down arrow", mouse buttons (iambic), keyboard alpha-numeric input or a text file.

The key/paddle interface is simple and designed for serial port. If you have USB only, a serial to usb convertor is necessary.

Reception is by audio tone (sine wave, variable frequency), blinking LED and/or PC monitor screen. The incomming code can be slowed down (or sped up) without having the sending operator QRS or QRQ.

Many hams and non-hams alike all over the globe are on the system. Plenty of 'room' is available for QSOs; there are 64000 'channels'. There is also code practice running almost continuously on several channels.

I'm certain I've left something out but the web site pretty much explains things.

73.......Steve Smith WB6TNL

From: "wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@yahoo.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
To: "4sqrp@yahoogroups.com" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:20:43 -0600

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA



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Consistently competitive rates, 24/7 customer care, Member FDIC
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Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

John Lonigro
 

I wonder if the software will run under WINE? If so, it would open it up to both Mac and Linux users.

John AA0VE

P.S. Merry Christmas to all.

On 12/24/2015 05:04 PM, David Lininger kb0zke@gmail.com [4sqrp] wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

So what do you recommend for those of us who use Macs?

On 24/12/15 16:55, 'Stephen Smith' sigcom@juno.com [4sqrp] wrote:
CW over the Internet is fun. And it has already been done for us. IM
NSHO, CW Communicator by MRX Software is the best Morse over Internet ap
plication, bar none. It was invented by a ham, John Samin VK1EME. Ther
e is no need to join EchoLink or any other system, the CW Comm. applicat
ions stands alone
<http://www.mrx.com.au/>; home page
<http://www.mrx.com.au/d_cwcom.htm>; download page
<http://morsecode.dyndns.org/index.html>; see all users active on syste
m
The application is free, small and works w/ Windows only.

The input can be a key/paddle, the keyboard "down arrow", mouse button
s (iambic), keyboard alpha-numeric input or a text file.
The key/paddle interface is simple and designed for serial port. If y
ou have USB only, a serial to usb convertor is necessary.
Reception is by audio tone (sine wave, variable frequency), blinking L
ED and/or PC monitor screen. The incomming code can be slowed down (or
sped up) without having the sending operator QRS or QRQ.
Many hams and non-hams alike all over the globe are on the system. Pl
enty of 'room' is available for QSOs; there are 64000 'channels'. There
is also code practice running almost continuously on several channels.
I'm certain I've left something out but the web site pretty much expla
ins things.
73.......Steve Smith WB6TNL

From: "wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@yahoo.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
To: "4sqrp@yahoogroups.com" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:20:43 -0600

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide so
me
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challengin
g
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets an
d
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members a
s
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do
it?
TIA



____________________________________________________________
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Consistently competitive rates, 24/7 customer care, Member FDIC
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/567c780dac262780c656est04vuc


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Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

sigcom1
 

I have no recommendation. I know it's distasteful to Mac users but possibly a Win. emulator(?). I don't own a Mac or I'd give it a try.

Getting it working on a Mac would make you a hero.

73.......Steve Smith WB6TNL

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "David Lininger kb0zke@gmail.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
To: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Smith <sigcom@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:04:15 -0600

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So what do you recommend for those of us who use Macs?
____________________________________________________________
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Consistently competitive rates, 24/7 customer care, Member FDIC
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Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

David Lininger
 

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

So what do you recommend for those of us who use Macs?

On 24/12/15 16:55, 'Stephen Smith' sigcom@juno.com [4sqrp] wrote:
CW over the Internet is fun. And it has already been done for us. IM
NSHO, CW Communicator by MRX Software is the best Morse over Internet ap
plication, bar none. It was invented by a ham, John Samin VK1EME. Ther
e is no need to join EchoLink or any other system, the CW Comm. applicat
ions stands alone

<http://www.mrx.com.au/>; home page
<http://www.mrx.com.au/d_cwcom.htm>; download page
<http://morsecode.dyndns.org/index.html>; see all users active on syste
m

The application is free, small and works w/ Windows only.

The input can be a key/paddle, the keyboard "down arrow", mouse button
s (iambic), keyboard alpha-numeric input or a text file.

The key/paddle interface is simple and designed for serial port. If y
ou have USB only, a serial to usb convertor is necessary.

Reception is by audio tone (sine wave, variable frequency), blinking L
ED and/or PC monitor screen. The incomming code can be slowed down (or
sped up) without having the sending operator QRS or QRQ.

Many hams and non-hams alike all over the globe are on the system. Pl
enty of 'room' is available for QSOs; there are 64000 'channels'. There
is also code practice running almost continuously on several channels.

I'm certain I've left something out but the web site pretty much expla
ins things.

73.......Steve Smith WB6TNL

From: "wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@yahoo.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
To: "4sqrp@yahoogroups.com" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:20:43 -0600

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide so
me
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challengin
g
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets an
d
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members a
s
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do
it?

TIA



____________________________________________________________
Ally Bank, Member FDIC
Consistently competitive rates, 24/7 customer care, Member FDIC
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/567c780dac262780c656est04vuc


------------------------------------

------------------------------------

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Plan to attend OzarkCon on - April 1-2, 2016
View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.php
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Rev. 2:10
kb0zke@gmail.com
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Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

sigcom1
 

CW over the Internet is fun. And it has already been done for us. IMNSHO, CW Communicator by MRX Software is the best Morse over Internet application, bar none. It was invented by a ham, John Samin VK1EME. There is no need to join EchoLink or any other system, the CW Comm. applications stands alone

<http://www.mrx.com.au/>; home page
<http://www.mrx.com.au/d_cwcom.htm>; download page
<http://morsecode.dyndns.org/index.html>; see all users active on system

The application is free, small and works w/ Windows only.

The input can be a key/paddle, the keyboard "down arrow", mouse buttons (iambic), keyboard alpha-numeric input or a text file.

The key/paddle interface is simple and designed for serial port. If you have USB only, a serial to usb convertor is necessary.

Reception is by audio tone (sine wave, variable frequency), blinking LED and/or PC monitor screen. The incomming code can be slowed down (or sped up) without having the sending operator QRS or QRQ.

Many hams and non-hams alike all over the globe are on the system. Plenty of 'room' is available for QSOs; there are 64000 'channels'. There is also code practice running almost continuously on several channels.

I'm certain I've left something out but the web site pretty much explains things.

73.......Steve Smith WB6TNL

From: "wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@yahoo.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
To: "4sqrp@yahoogroups.com" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:20:43 -0600

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA



____________________________________________________________
Ally Bank, Member FDIC
Consistently competitive rates, 24/7 customer care, Member FDIC
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/567c780dac262780c656est04vuc


Re: What I've been working on...

Dan Reynolds
 

Terry, thanks. As complicated as SMD soldering is I find it very cathartic. It requires so much concentration that you HAVE to shut everything else out and except on the teeny-tiniest ones it's just a matter of working through it.

I use the "puddle" method. I lay down a little puddle of solder on one pad (two diagonally opposite pads for an IC). Then I maneuver the part into position and apply heat to 'sink' the part into the puddle. You can actually build up a rhythm doing it that way. I can even line up several parts in a row and nail them down without jiggling the others out of position. Someone told me about the bamboo tweezers. I heard that the BEST 20 & 21 tweezers were good and being wooden they are not magnetic, conductive and are static free. They hold firmly but hardly ever 'shoot' the parts out. And they're cheeeep on that watery auction site.
The only problem I've discovered with this particular board set is that the copper must be low weight. It lifts very easily (found that on the board I ruined). So you have to be very careful with solder wick or you'll tear a pad off. That plus they're small pads!

I will keep updating that album if you want to check back...

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 2:05 PM, WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:
Amazing Dan, great work.
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
wa0itp@...
On 12/24/2015 1:58 PM, on30ng@... [4sqrp] wrote:
 

About time to start the "What are you working on?" thread...


I started a very ambitious -- maybe too ambitious?? - project called the mcHF Transceiver. It is an 80-10 open source SDR transceiver design utilizing (2) PCB's in a very compact arrangement. Sort of a poor man's KX3 if you will. It is almost entirely SMD. Very few through hole parts. And the MCU - ugh a QFP 100 chip! I messed up my first UI board & MCU...


This time I started with the RF board and am doing much better. Lots of patience, 0.015" solder, flux, bamboo tweezers and very fine tips in my Metcal solder station...


Here's my Google photo album: https://goo.gl/photos/snK5Ya2pm4yGvSv9A

Look in the LO section - at U9 & U12/U13. Those were murder! BTW, the four pictures of completed boards are Gavin's, M1BXF. I have those in my album for reference purposes...


My goal is to have it done by Ozarkcon and show it off there. I'm going very slow, one section at a time. I double check the schematic, the BOM and my home made board layout diagrams. I also clean off the flux with every section. And I inspect each solder joint with a 10x loupe (sometimes it's even hard to see with that!). My phone has also been helpful. Sometimes you can snap a pic then display it all blown up on the computer screen.

It has been both challenging and rewarding. Oh, I also 3D printed the case. There are designs for that. I actually had to "expand" the printing bed of my printer twice to accomplish that! Ha, ha! 


This design has a very active Yahoo Group: 

https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/M0NKA-mcHF/conversations/messages

Chris M0NKA is the designer & did the original programming

http://www.m0nka.co.uk/ 

Clint KA7OEI has done all the most recent programming (and adding functionality)

http://ka7oei.blogspot.com/search/label/mcHF%20SDR%20transceiver

mcHF




mcHF
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Dan  --  KB9JLO

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Re: What I've been working on...

Dan Reynolds
 

That YouTube video is NOT my radio. I'm only partially completed with the RF board. I just thought you guys might to see one in action. Pretty impressive for "home brew"


Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

wa0itp yahoo <wa0itp@...>
 

Ron, Johnny, and all,
Echolink may indeed be the tool we need. 

Some food for thought:
Create a 4sqrp conference on Echolink
Key an audio oscillator plugged into the computer's mic jack.
Or use a computer mic laying next to the keyers sidetone.
May need to listen to the keyer's a sidetone.
Would break in be possible, or simplex only?

It isn't radio but it will be fun. Someone lead the charge.
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I love this radio stuff!
72 73
WAØITP
http://www.wa0itp.com
http://www.4sqrp.com/
On 12/24/2015 1:54 PM, Johnny Matlock jomatlock@... [4sqrp] wrote:

 

I'm interested as well.

I was thinking like Ron, possibly echo link?
Johnny AC0BQ

On Thursday, December 24, 2015, wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA

--
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I love this radio stuff!
72 73
WAØITP
http://www.wa0itp.com
http://www.4sqrp.com/



--
QRP....."More smiles per Watt"
72
JOHNNY AC0BQ  ..





What I've been working on...

Dan Reynolds
 

About time to start the "What are you working on?" thread...


I started a very ambitious -- maybe too ambitious?? - project called the mcHF Transceiver. It is an 80-10 open source SDR transceiver design utilizing (2) PCB's in a very compact arrangement. Sort of a poor man's KX3 if you will. It is almost entirely SMD. Very few through hole parts. And the MCU - ugh a QFP 100 chip! I messed up my first UI board & MCU...


This time I started with the RF board and am doing much better. Lots of patience, 0.015" solder, flux, bamboo tweezers and very fine tips in my Metcal solder station...


Here's my Google photo album: https://goo.gl/photos/snK5Ya2pm4yGvSv9A

Look in the LO section - at U9 & U12/U13. Those were murder! BTW, the four pictures of completed boards are Gavin's, M1BXF. I have those in my album for reference purposes...


My goal is to have it done by Ozarkcon and show it off there. I'm going very slow, one section at a time. I double check the schematic, the BOM and my home made board layout diagrams. I also clean off the flux with every section. And I inspect each solder joint with a 10x loupe (sometimes it's even hard to see with that!). My phone has also been helpful. Sometimes you can snap a pic then display it all blown up on the computer screen.

It has been both challenging and rewarding. Oh, I also 3D printed the case. There are designs for that. I actually had to "expand" the printing bed of my printer twice to accomplish that! Ha, ha! 


This design has a very active Yahoo Group: 

https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/M0NKA-mcHF/conversations/messages

Chris M0NKA is the designer & did the original programming

http://www.m0nka.co.uk/ 

Clint KA7OEI has done all the most recent programming (and adding functionality)

http://ka7oei.blogspot.com/search/label/mcHF%20SDR%20transceiver

mcHF


Dan  --  KB9JLO

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Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

Johnny AC0BQ
 

I'm interested as well.
I was thinking like Ron, possibly echo link?
Johnny AC0BQ


On Thursday, December 24, 2015, wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA

--
----------------------------
I love this radio stuff!
72 73
WAØITP
http://www.wa0itp.com
http://www.4sqrp.com/



--
QRP....."More smiles per Watt"
72
JOHNNY AC0BQ  ..




Re: Merry Christmas

Dan Reynolds
 

Terry and all the 4SQRP - I hope everyone has a blessed and safe and Merry Christmas. And a happy new year. May the richness and fullness of the Christ Child dwell in all your hearts.

Personally, I'm honored to be 4SQRP 'kitter'. I really feel like this is the club where I belong. 

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

Dan -- KB9JLO
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Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

AG1P Ron
 

Sounds interesting to me.  Maybe Echolink could provide a vehicle to accomplish?

 

Merry Christmas!!

72 de Ron - AG1P

 

From: 4sqrp@... [mailto:4sqrp@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 11:21 AM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: [4sqrp] Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

 

 

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA

--
----------------------------
I love this radio stuff!
72 73
WAØITP
http://www.wa0itp.com
http://www.4sqrp.com/


Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

Charles W. Powell
 

The landline guys have set up just such a group on the internet, although their facilities either use or emulate sounders.  I’m not sure what the program for Windows is like - I think more flexible and able to superimpose a tone, tone with clicks, or just the clicks.  I have “version 3” and it is a java script that apparently is not as flexible as the Windows program (I’m a Mac user).  It apparently is possible to do your keying directly through a serial port or serial-USB adapter.  The Morse KOB guys are free.  I’ve looked into this but as of right now, I can’t really follow the sounder clicks, and I don’t know American Morse at all.

There is an online group for computer generated “radio”, but there is a charge for the service.

When I’m stuck in a hotel room with S9+20 noise on the radio it would be great to be able to do a little “CW” with just a key and a USB plug.  Unfortunately, I’m not the guy to write it.

72,

Chas NK8O

On Dec 24, 2015, at 12:20 PM, wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some 
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging 
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club 
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in 
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and 
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as 
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy 
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA

-- 
----------------------------
I love this radio stuff!
72 73
WAØITP
http://www.wa0itp.com
http://www.4sqrp.com/



Re: Morse Over Internet - Project for the New Year ?

Robert
 

I'm inrersted,

On Dec 24, 2015 1:21 PM, "wa0itp yahoo wa0itp@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

I have a thought that CW over the internet might be fun and provide some
cw enjoyment for those who are radio or antenna challenged. Challenging
propagation figures into the equation also. It would be a good club
benefit for members who can't participate in the on the air activites.

Is anyone in the Group familiar with doing this and could lead us in
setting up a simple and inexpensive "station" ? I can envision nets and
casual QSOs, and members monitoring the system to snag other members as
they called CQ, etc. Key design goals would be simple, cheap, and easy
to implement.

Any interest? Anyone with knowledge of it ? Can we do it? Should we do it?

TIA

--
----------------------------
I love this radio stuff!
72 73
WAØITP
http://www.wa0itp.com
http://www.4sqrp.com/

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