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Amateur radio experiences DIY renaissance

WA0ITP
 

Amateur radio experiences DIY renaissance

This link is on the main page of QRZ.com Irt will take you to a nice articvle
by Dave Sumner in which he extolews sthe virtues of kit building, portable ops,
and QRP. Good reading and further proof that others believe that QRPers have
captured the essence of what it means to be a Ham. 'Course we knew that all
along didnt we :o)

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I love this radio stuff !
72 WA�ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com


Re: Trifecta... Four-fecta...... !!!

kb4qqj
 

I'm working on it!!  ;-)
 
Randy_KB4QQJ
 

In a message dated 3/28/2013 12:49:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, davemrtn@... writes:


Four-Fecta, really !!!

Why not Penta-Fecta - both 80M nets, both 40M nets and the PSK net ALL in one night !!!

Now that's impressive !!!


--
David Martin - K5DCM - Mountain Home Ar.


Re: How do you test a toroid -

Charlie Vest
 

I have had very good success with every China item that I have ordered . I stay away from most of their transistors and IC's , since you never know what die they are really using .Plus many times Mouser is cheaper if you buy in quantity and takes me 1 to 2 days to get it .
 
It does take some time to get the China items . I just order them and forget about it until they arrive .
 
Although I have a couple of really nice testers for various items from China that I am quite pleased with the quality and accuracy of , I did find a "new to me" item yesterday after all the e-mail talk and ended up ordering item number :
330855732011
 
From the auction place . Will see if it is as good as the other items that I have in about a month when it arrives .
 
Charlie , W5COV


 


I picked up one of the ones in your link in your email,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-F-5pF-1uF-0-05uH-500H-Inductance-Capacitance-High-Precision-LC-Meter-Clip-/170932517462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc5f3a56

It seems to work just fine! not a bad deal for $21, just keep in mind that it runs off of +5v...and not +12..

Fred
WA8PGE

--- In 4sqrp@..., "w1sfr" wrote:
>
> I see a lot of LC meters on ebay. Do you think one of these might do the trick or are they too cheap.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-F-5pF-1uF-0-05uH-500H-Inductance-Capacitance-High-Precision-LC-Meter-Clip-/170932517462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc5f3a56
>
> 73 Steve
>
> --- In 4sqrp@..., "Donald" wrote:
> >
> > I can't argue with the expense. I built my homebrew LC meter because it was only a few bucks, simple and exceeded my required accuracy.
> >
> > Good luck and have fun with your project, Steve.
> >
> > 72 K5UOS
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 4sqrp@..., Stephen Roberts wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Don,
> > >
> > > Well I can't see spending $150 for an LC meter although it would be nice to have one. I'm not really a electronic tech by any means so it's really hard to justify the expense. And from a practical point of view, building one would take me forever but it certainly looks like a worthy project. In the end, I'm sure I'll just fire it up and see what happens which is my normal method of testing ;-)
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Donald Kelly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I assume you know the ultimate inductance of the coil you are winding. A handy tool to have is a L/C meter.
> > > > Not all toroids are alike and it is always a good idea to measure. My guess is most of the guys have one of these.
> > > >
> > > > http://aade.com/lcmeter.htm
> > > >
> > > > This meter evolved from a homebrew project by Bill Carver, W7AAZ. A digital readout was added later for easier use. The original project is classic in its simplicity.
> > > > It is also included in "Experimental Methods in RF Design" in the test gear chapter.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.qsl.net/wm5z/cq199301b.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My version is used all the time. You can see the ugly style board is very simple. The trick is in the calibration steps and having a precision calibrating capacitor.
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?238952-A-Simple-Homebrew-L-and-C-Tester
> > > >
> > > > Test gear is fun to build and a great way to get started in scratch projects.
> > > >
> > > > Don K5UOS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: 4sqrp@... [mailto:4sqrp@...] On Behalf Of w1sfr
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:18 AM
> > > > To: 4sqrp@...
> > > > Subject: [4sqrp] How do you test a toroid?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The transforming toroids are pretty tricky to wind. Is there any way to test them to find out if you've done it correctly?
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: How do you test a toroid -

flsaas
 

I picked up one of the ones in your link in your email,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-F-5pF-1uF-0-05uH-500H-Inductance-Capacitance-High-Precision-LC-Meter-Clip-/170932517462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc5f3a56

It seems to work just fine! not a bad deal for $21, just keep in mind that it runs off of +5v...and not +12..

Fred
WA8PGE

--- In 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com, "w1sfr" <steverob@...> wrote:

I see a lot of LC meters on ebay. Do you think one of these might do the trick or are they too cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-F-5pF-1uF-0-05uH-500H-Inductance-Capacitance-High-Precision-LC-Meter-Clip-/170932517462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc5f3a56

73 Steve

--- In 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com, "Donald" <DKELLY42@> wrote:

I can't argue with the expense. I built my homebrew LC meter because it was only a few bucks, simple and exceeded my required accuracy.

Good luck and have fun with your project, Steve.

72 K5UOS



--- In 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Roberts <steverob@> wrote:

Hi Don,

Well I can't see spending $150 for an LC meter although it would be nice to have one. I'm not really a electronic tech by any means so it's really hard to justify the expense. And from a practical point of view, building one would take me forever but it certainly looks like a worthy project. In the end, I'm sure I'll just fire it up and see what happens which is my normal method of testing ;-)

73
Steve


On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Donald Kelly wrote:

Hi Steve,

I assume you know the ultimate inductance of the coil you are winding. A handy tool to have is a L/C meter.
Not all toroids are alike and it is always a good idea to measure. My guess is most of the guys have one of these.

http://aade.com/lcmeter.htm

This meter evolved from a homebrew project by Bill Carver, W7AAZ. A digital readout was added later for easier use. The original project is classic in its simplicity.
It is also included in "Experimental Methods in RF Design" in the test gear chapter.

http://www.qsl.net/wm5z/cq199301b.pdf


My version is used all the time. You can see the ugly style board is very simple. The trick is in the calibration steps and having a precision calibrating capacitor.

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?238952-A-Simple-Homebrew-L-and-C-Tester

Test gear is fun to build and a great way to get started in scratch projects.

Don K5UOS



From: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:4sqrp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w1sfr
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:18 AM
To: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [4sqrp] How do you test a toroid?


The transforming toroids are pretty tricky to wind. Is there any way to test them to find out if you've done it correctly?

73
Steve


Re: How do you test a toroid -

George H. Gates
 

My experience. Took over a month to com. Arrived not working .Had to return at my cost to get a replacement. Took a month for them to receive it back., Then another month to get the new one to me. At least this one lights up. But does not work. Zero out and put cap in the unit.and just get a bunch of blinking numbers. There are people selling them. If you get the right one perhaps it works!  72 George/W2BPI
 

In a message dated 3/27/2013 4:17:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steverob@... writes:
 

I see a lot of LC meters on ebay. Do you think one of these might do the trick or are they too cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-F-5pF-1uF-0-05uH-500H-Inductance-Capacitance-High-Precision-LC-Meter-Clip-/170932517462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc5f3a56

73 Steve

--- In 4sqrp@..., "Donald" wrote:
>
> I can't argue with the expense. I built my homebrew LC meter because it was only a few bucks, simple and exceeded my required accuracy.
>
> Good luck and have fun with your project, Steve.
>
> 72 K5UOS
>
>
>
> --- In 4sqrp@..., Stephen Roberts wrote:
> >
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > Well I can't see spending $150 for an LC meter although it would be nice to have one. I'm not really a electronic tech by any means so it's really hard to justify the expense. And from a practical point of view, building one would take me forever but it certainly looks like a worthy project. In the end, I'm sure I'll just fire it up and see what happens which is my normal method of testing ;-)
> >
> > 73
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Donald Kelly wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > I assume you know the ultimate inductance of the coil you are winding. A handy tool to have is a L/C meter.
> > > Not all toroids are alike and it is always a good idea to measure. My guess is most of the guys have one of these.
> > >
> > > http://aade.com/lcmeter.htm
> > >
> > > This meter evolved from a homebrew project by Bill Carver, W7AAZ. A digital readout was added later for easier use. The original project is classic in its simplicity.
> > > It is also included in "Experimental Methods in RF Design" in the test gear chapter.
> > >
> > > http://www.qsl.net/wm5z/cq199301b.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > > My version is used all the time. You can see the ugly style board is very simple. The trick is in the calibration steps and having a precision calibrating capacitor.
> > >
> > > http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?238952-A-Simple-Homebrew-L-and-C-Tester
> > >
> > > Test gear is fun to build and a great way to get started in scratch projects.
> > >
> > > Don K5UOS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: 4sqrp@... [mailto:4sqrp@...] On Behalf Of w1sfr
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:18 AM
> > > To: 4sqrp@...
> > > Subject: [4sqrp] How do you test a toroid?
> > >
> > >
> > > The transforming toroids are pretty tricky to wind. Is there any way to test them to find out if you've done it correctly?
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: Trifecta... Four-fecta...... !!!

davemrtn
 


Re: Trifecta!

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Sorry Randy, I didn't do my home work before I started crowing,
I am just happy to be part of the new Trifecta group.
Cu soon.
72
JohnnyAC0BQ

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, wrote:
 

That would be the second (at least) trifecta Johnny. :-)
I made all three nets on 3/13
 
Randy_KB4QQJ
 
In a message dated 3/27/2013 10:55:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jomatlock@... writes:
 

Ge group 

I think I made the first Trifecta on the nets tonite. I was lucky enough to get into all 3 of them. I almost missed Dick's net, I went in to tune up and get ready for the digital net and he was asking for checkins!
I am sending out a 4 SQRP group challenge for any or all of you to give it a try, es great QRP fun!
72
Johnny AC0BQ


Re: Dash!

Dan Reynolds
 

Isn't that cool? We got a Dash toon.
We're famous now guys!

--- In 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com, "nm0s_qrp" <ai9e_qrp@...> wrote:

Ozarkcon gets a shout-out from Jeff Murray, K1NSS, A.K.A Dash! the Dog-Faced Ham!

http://dashtoons.com/


Re: Calibrating the Pig Rig without a Freq counter?

kb4qqj
 

Send CQ CQ de W1SFR W1SFR several times repeatedly. Then go check the reverse beacon net for your call and freq. If it is off, wait 10-15 minutes and do it again till it shows 7030.7 
Just my thoughts.
 
Randy_KB4QQJ
 

In a message dated 3/28/2013 9:01:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steverob@... writes:
 

Ok. I got the Pig Rig built and now I have to calibrate and align it. I don't have a freq counter or a 10V source. I can figure out how to step the voltage down from my power source, but was wondering if there was any alternative to having a freq counter?

73
Steve
W1SFR


Re: Four-fecta

kb4qqj
 

Is this a 4x4 #2?  I hope so. I really had a ball in the last 4x4.
 
Randy_KB4QQJ
 

In a message dated 3/28/2013 7:38:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, walter.k5est@... writes:
 

It only seems proper that a new 4 State QRP Group radio Sprint is in the making! That would give a 4-fecta to keep us in the "4's" !

The 4-Sprint is coming on Sunday evenings at 8pm central time. Only hold back is finishing up the reporting logs for an easy online entry. It's verrry close to being finished.

So, come the 1st Sunday in May, then the 4-Sprint should be ready to start up.....more on this a bit later!

Thanks to all stations that QNI the 4SQRP nets, and our NCS stations are saints!

72/73....Walter . K5EST


Re: Calibrating the Pig Rig without a Freq counter?

w1sfr <steverob@...>
 

Well, I'd say that was easy enough. Thanks!

Making the last tweaks and wiring up the pots etc now.

73
Steve

--- In 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com, "WA0ITP" <wa0itp@...> wrote:

GM Steve,

Yes, set your big rig to 7030.7 and remove it's antenna.

Connect the pigrig to a dummy load. Key it , and adjust C26 to zero beat on your
big rig.

Connect the pigrig to the antenna and call cq several times while checking the
reverse beacon network http://ham.jit.su/fsqrp several of the skimmers should
hear you and report your frequency.

PigRigs are designed to run off a 12 volt supply, no need to drop it to 10
volts.

Good luck and have fun..

----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72 WAØITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "w1sfr" <steverob@...>
To: <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Calibrating the Pig Rig without a Freq counter?


| Ok. I got the Pig Rig built and now I have to calibrate and align it. I don't
have a freq counter or a 10V source. I can figure out how to step the voltage
down from my power source, but was wondering if there was any alternative to
having a freq counter?
|
| 73
| Steve
| W1SFR
|
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| 4SQRP Website: http://4sqrp.com
| OzarkCon is coming April 5-6 in Branson, MO
| View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.phpYahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|


Just checking

W0IIT
 

Terry,

I don't recall if you ordered a plaque for Walter or not. Don't mean to stick my nose in where it doesn't belong but thought if you hadn't it might have been an oversight!!

cu, Bart

OBTW, you do one hell of a good job as NCS. Many of those that have not done that don't appreciate the effort!! I called the OK slow speed net for a couple of years in the mid 80's and know the work involved!


Re: Four-fecta

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Count me in!
Johnny AC0BQ


On Thursday, March 28, 2013, WA0ITP wrote:
 

Yea!!!  This should be fun!
 
----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72   WAØITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:38 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Four-fecta

It only seems proper that a new 4 State QRP Group radio Sprint is in the making! That would give a 4-fecta to keep us in the "4's" !

The 4-Sprint is coming on Sunday evenings at 8pm central time. Only hold back is finishing up the reporting logs for an easy online entry. It's verrry close to being finished.

So, come the 1st Sunday in May, then the 4-Sprint should be ready to start up.....more on this a bit later!

Thanks to all stations that QNI the 4SQRP nets, and our NCS stations are saints!

72/73....Walter . K5EST


Re: Dash!

WA0ITP
 

That's a really awesome cartoon!! Thanks for posting the link

----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA�ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "nm0s_qrp" <ai9e_qrp@yahoo.com>
To: <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: [4sqrp] Dash!


| Ozarkcon gets a shout-out from Jeff Murray, K1NSS, A.K.A Dash! the Dog-Faced
Ham!
|
| http://dashtoons.com/
|
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| 4SQRP Website: http://4sqrp.com
| OzarkCon is coming April 5-6 in Branson, MO
| View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.phpYahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|


Re: Four-fecta

Dale Putnam
 

OH BOY!!! This will be great fun!!! I can hardly wait....

Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 

 

To: 4sqrp@...; walter.k5est@...
From: wa0itp@...
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:04:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Four-fecta

 

Yea!!!  This should be fun!
 
----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72   WAØITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:38 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Four-fecta

It only seems proper that a new 4 State QRP Group radio Sprint is in the making! That would give a 4-fecta to keep us in the "4's" !
The 4-Sprint is coming on Sunday evenings at 8pm central time. Only hold back is finishing up the reporting logs for an easy online entry. It's verrry close to being finished.
So, come the 1st Sunday in May, then the 4-Sprint should be ready to start up.....more on this a bit later!
Thanks to all stations that QNI the 4SQRP nets, and our NCS stations are saints!
72/73....Walter . K5EST




Re: Calibrating the Pig Rig without a Freq counter?

WA0ITP
 

GM Steve,

Yes, set your big rig to 7030.7 and remove it's antenna.

Connect the pigrig to a dummy load. Key it , and adjust C26 to zero beat on your
big rig.

Connect the pigrig to the antenna and call cq several times while checking the
reverse beacon network http://ham.jit.su/fsqrp several of the skimmers should
hear you and report your frequency.

PigRigs are designed to run off a 12 volt supply, no need to drop it to 10
volts.

Good luck and have fun..

----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA�ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "w1sfr" <steverob@shoreham.net>
To: <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Calibrating the Pig Rig without a Freq counter?


| Ok. I got the Pig Rig built and now I have to calibrate and align it. I don't
have a freq counter or a 10V source. I can figure out how to step the voltage
down from my power source, but was wondering if there was any alternative to
having a freq counter?
|
| 73
| Steve
| W1SFR
|
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| 4SQRP Website: http://4sqrp.com
| OzarkCon is coming April 5-6 in Branson, MO
| View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.phpYahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|


Re: Four-fecta

WA0ITP
 


Yea!!!  This should be fun!
 
----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72   WAØITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:38 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Four-fecta

It only seems proper that a new 4 State QRP Group radio Sprint is in the making! That would give a 4-fecta to keep us in the "4's" !

The 4-Sprint is coming on Sunday evenings at 8pm central time. Only hold back is finishing up the reporting logs for an easy online entry. It's verrry close to being finished.

So, come the 1st Sunday in May, then the 4-Sprint should be ready to start up.....more on this a bit later!

Thanks to all stations that QNI the 4SQRP nets, and our NCS stations are saints!

72/73....Walter . K5EST


Re: Wednesday evening 40m nets

WA0ITP
 

Great net!
 
----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72   WAØITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Wednesday evening 40m nets

Good morning folks,
Well another bumper evening on '40 last night. The band was reasonably quiet with good signals from all who checked in. So, without any further ado:

W4RK - Bill - MO
K5UOS - Don - OK
AC0BQ - Johnny - KS
W0PT - Bill - KS
W2SH - Charles - NJ
K8IQY - Jim - MI
N9RLO - John - IN
AE4LD - Larry - NC
WN0I - Jim - MO
AA7EQ - Bob - AR
W2SH - Charles - NJ
KB9JIO - Danny - IL
K5HG - Herb - TX
KU8S - Hank - FL
K8CQA - John - OH
KD0SZS - Daniel - MO

Outstanding turnout and thank you all. To those I missed I'll try harder next week.
72/3 es God Bless de Wayne - KC0PMH

--
http://www.qsl.net/kc0pmh/   Under construction but please visit anyway.
 
QRP -  EFFICIENCY AND SKILL, NOT POWER. 
 
I'm British by birth but American by CHOICE!

Jesus came to pay a debt He didn't owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay...

The Lord bless you and keep you
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you
The Lord lift up his contenance upon you and give you peace.

God Bless from Wayne Dillon - KC0PMH

Joshua 24:14-15
2 Cor 5:17
1 Jn 2:17
 

4 State QRP Group NCS - 40m & 160m
4SQRP #95
FPQRP #342 (Flying Pigs QRP Club)
G-QRP-C #11504
NAQCC # 0759
QRP-ARCI #11505
SKCC #1155
SOC #848
30MDG#1176
NEQRP #693
GORC #192


Re: Wednesday evening 40m nets

WA0ITP
 

Great net!
 
----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72   WAØITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Wednesday evening 40m nets

Good morning folks,
Well another bumper evening on '40 last night. The band was reasonably quiet with good signals from all who checked in. So, without any further ado:

W4RK - Bill - MO
K5UOS - Don - OK
AC0BQ - Johnny - KS
W0PT - Bill - KS
W2SH - Charles - NJ
K8IQY - Jim - MI
N9RLO - John - IN
AE4LD - Larry - NC
WN0I - Jim - MO
AA7EQ - Bob - AR
W2SH - Charles - NJ
KB9JIO - Danny - IL
K5HG - Herb - TX
KU8S - Hank - FL
K8CQA - John - OH
KD0SZS - Daniel - MO

Outstanding turnout and thank you all. To those I missed I'll try harder next week.
72/3 es God Bless de Wayne - KC0PMH

--
http://www.qsl.net/kc0pmh/   Under construction but please visit anyway.
 
QRP -  EFFICIENCY AND SKILL, NOT POWER. 
 
I'm British by birth but American by CHOICE!

Jesus came to pay a debt He didn't owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay...

The Lord bless you and keep you
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you
The Lord lift up his contenance upon you and give you peace.

God Bless from Wayne Dillon - KC0PMH

Joshua 24:14-15
2 Cor 5:17
1 Jn 2:17
 

4 State QRP Group NCS - 40m & 160m
4SQRP #95
FPQRP #342 (Flying Pigs QRP Club)
G-QRP-C #11504
NAQCC # 0759
QRP-ARCI #11505
SKCC #1155
SOC #848
30MDG#1176
NEQRP #693
GORC #192


Calibrating the Pig Rig without a Freq counter?

w1sfr <steverob@...>
 

Ok. I got the Pig Rig built and now I have to calibrate and align it. I don't have a freq counter or a 10V source. I can figure out how to step the voltage down from my power source, but was wondering if there was any alternative to having a freq counter?

73
Steve
W1SFR