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Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ken Talbott
 

Consensus?  NEVER!  If so, we would all own the same rig. Ham radio is the ONLY endeavor in which everyone IS entitled to their own facts.  Enjoy.

Ken ke4rg

 

From: 4sqrp@... [mailto:4sqrp@...]
Sent: July 15, 2016 22:58
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

 

 


Hello 4sqrp,

 

I have seen many suggestions.

Is there any consensus or agreement?

What is Ed, AD7GR, acquiring?

Our dollar here is 77 cents 

of the Greenback -  $1.30

 

73

Jim

VA3HOD (4sqrp) & VE3HOV

 

On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:34 PM, wb8yyy@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:

 

Ed

 

If you must have an all mode rig, watch for either an argonaut 5 or 6, the last 2 models, on the used market.  The former is a 25 watt superhet, while the latter is a lower transmit power SDR that I remember operating with a solar panel at field day a couple years ago.  Check receive current on these to see if they might be something like 200 MA or so, you don't want several amps on battery power.  A lightly equipped k2 might be in similar price range.  Any of these rigs are an enjoyable ride, as is a lot of simpler qrp rigs.  

 

73 curt

 


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

James W. Hodgson
 


Hello 4sqrp,

I have seen many suggestions.
Is there any consensus or agreement?
What is Ed, AD7GR, acquiring?
Our dollar here is 77 cents 
of the Greenback -  $1.30

73
Jim
VA3HOD (4sqrp) & VE3HOV

On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:34 PM, wb8yyy@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:

 

Ed


If you must have an all mode rig, watch for either an argonaut 5 or 6, the last 2 models, on the used market.  The former is a 25 watt superhet, while the latter is a lower transmit power SDR that I remember operating with a solar panel at field day a couple years ago.  Check receive current on these to see if they might be something like 200 MA or so, you don't want several amps on battery power.  A lightly equipped k2 might be in similar price range.  Any of these rigs are an enjoyable ride, as is a lot of simpler qrp rigs.  

73 curt


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Curt
 

Ed

If you must have an all mode rig, watch for either an argonaut 5 or 6, the last 2 models, on the used market.  The former is a 25 watt superhet, while the latter is a lower transmit power SDR that I remember operating with a solar panel at field day a couple years ago.  Check receive current on these to see if they might be something like 200 MA or so, you don't want several amps on battery power.  A lightly equipped k2 might be in similar price range.  Any of these rigs are an enjoyable ride, as is a lot of simpler qrp rigs.  

73 curt


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ed - ad7gr
 

Hello Ben,

During my wife's and my last horse camp trip to WA I set up my solar/deep cycle battery powered station using a TS-590S into a screwdriver antenna. When she goes on her trail riding I remain in camp. The antenna has worked well in the past and the 590 has an excellent receiver. I turned off the LCD back lighting and all else I could do without and dropped the power to 10W but the 590 is still a power hungry rig and I heard very few... and weak... signals. I did send out CQs at 75W occasionally thinking that when I snagged someone I could always QRP. No luck... that fishing expedition was terrible. Either condx were awful, no one was listening, or if listening, did not want to respond.

Here's a link to my website where I describe what I set up for a field shack... http://edliko.net Of course what you see there was just the trial setup in my yard at home.

I also have and have used the ZM-2 tuner I built... a great little tuner.

When condx are good 5W is all that is needed.

73,
Ed - ad7gr
skcc #30T
www.edliko.net

On 7/15/2016 8:34 AM, ben@littleworkshop.com [4sqrp] wrote:

Might as well throw in my 2 cents. At Field Day I ran my Ten Tec Argonaut 6 off a battery quite successfully. Very comfortable at 1 - 10 watts and a really great receiver. It is not too picky on voltage either (9.5-14). It does require a battery with some capacity (3 amps draw at full transmit) but there are many options in that area.

If you want to have an amp along just in case then the Hard Rock 50 amp matches up nicely and gives you access to 50 watts in a smallish package at modest cost. And the HR 50 is not too demanding as to SWR.

For 10 watts I like to use the Emtech ZM-2 tuner which handles 10 watts comfortably and it offers antenna flexibility.

The Argonaut also matches up nicely with the Ten Tec 1208 6 meter transverter which puts out a little less than 9 watts for some VHF fun on weekends like this when there is a VHF contest.

All this is for picnic table use as I see it. If you want to hike and work off a rock along the trail etc then a smaller more rugged package is a better choice in my view but might not have 10 watts.

*** Ben KE3KQ


SALE PENDING: FS: Unbuilt Kit - SW-40+

Tim N9PUZ
 

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN SOLD PENDING RECEIPT OF FUNDS.
Thanks for looking.

Tim N9PUZ


Doing a little shack cleaning and thought I'd offer this here before it goes to the big auction site...

Dave Benson (Small Wonder Labs), New, un-built SW-40+ 40 Meter Transceiver kit.

Includes:

* Basic kit with PCB and all components (unopened)
* Knobs and Switches kit
* CD with instruction manual for building and alignment

Does NOT include the metal enclosure.

The SW-40+ is a 2W monoband transceiver with varactor tuned VFO.

Price: $95.00 includes shipping in the US.

DON'T BE A LID! IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT ME OFF LIST!

Email Tim at tim.n9puz@gmail.com to arrange payment and shipping.

Tim N9PUZ


FS: Unbuilt Kit - SW-40+

Tim N9PUZ
 

Doing a little shack cleaning and thought I'd offer this here before it goes to the big auction site...

Dave Benson (Small Wonder Labs), New, un-built SW-40+ 40 Meter Transceiver kit.

Includes:

  • Basic kit with PCB and all components (unopened)
  • Knobs and Switches kit
  • CD with instruction manual for building and alignment
Does NOT include the metal enclosure.

The SW-40+ is a 2W monoband transceiver with varactor tuned VFO.

Price: $95.00 includes shipping in the US.

DON'T BE A LID! IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT ME OFF LIST!

Email Tim at  tim.n9puz@... to arrange payment and shipping.

Tim N9PUZ


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

KE3KQ
 

Might as well throw in my 2 cents.  At Field Day I ran my Ten Tec Argonaut 6 off a battery quite successfully.  Very comfortable at 1 - 10 watts and a really great receiver.  It is not too picky on voltage either (9.5-14).  It does require a  battery with some capacity (3 amps draw at full transmit) but there are many options in that area.

If you want to have an amp along just in case then the Hard Rock 50 amp matches up nicely and gives you access to 50 watts in a smallish package at modest cost.  And the HR 50 is not too demanding as to SWR.

For 10 watts I like to use the Emtech ZM-2 tuner which handles 10 watts comfortably and it offers antenna flexibility.

The Argonaut also matches up nicely with the Ten Tec 1208 6 meter transverter which puts out a little less than 9 watts for some VHF fun on weekends like this when there is a VHF contest. 

All this is for picnic table use as I see it.  If you want to hike and work off a rock along the trail etc then a smaller more rugged package is a better choice in my view but might not have 10 watts.

*** Ben KE3KQ


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ed - ad7gr
 

My thanks to all for your ideas and suggestions. You have given me much to consider and think on. I likely even have the solution at hand.

73,
Ed - ad7gr
skcc #30T
www.edliko.net


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

 

I remember building up the Ramsey 20 watt AMP and I used it for years.
Now the price went up to $49.99 but free shipping.
If my mind remembers correctly the power out can be knocked down with the AMP or feed just a watt or 2 into the AMP.
 
I guess when things get real bad I will take the SR8T out of the box
BOB LECH  AF2DX
 

In a message dated 7/14/2016 7:29:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 4sqrp@... writes:
Sounds like a Heathkit HW 9, 5 watts, most bands. They are around in the used markets.

Ken Ketner
KA5ELD
PO Box 65135
Lubbock, TX 79464-5135
Sent from my iPad
 


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Curt
 

Ed

Likely you have many ideas from the group.  Battery friendly rigs tend not to be commercially available,  when you also seek low cost.  There are some 2 or 3 band rigs that come to mind, pfr3, youkits etc,  a couple bands in the middle of hf are plenty for vacation operation.  Even a couple of single band rigs would travel well.  

73 curt


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Kenneth Ketner
 

Sounds like a Heathkit HW 9, 5 watts, most bands. They are around in the used markets.

Ken Ketner
KA5ELD
PO Box 65135
Lubbock, TX 79464-5135
Sent from my iPad


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

 

Hi Paul,
The China CW rigs got me some very good DX and also I still have my 40 meter and 20 meter CW 5 watt rigs.
I use an external PICO keyer with a speed control pot on it so I can adjust fast to the hi or low speed sender.
BOB LECH  AF2DX
 

In a message dated 7/14/2016 6:39:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 4sqrp@... writes:
My EK-1A (Youkits) covers 40 and 20 on CW, 5 watts. Standby/receive is
less than 100 mA.

73 /paul W3FIS
 


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Paul Ross <deadgoose@...>
 

My EK-1A (Youkits) covers 40 and 20 on CW, 5 watts. Standby/receive is less than 100 mA.

73 /paul W3FIS


Re: CW Keys

 

Hi Gang,
I have one of those tiny CNC machined keys ( CLORE GREEN
I no longer use it because I find it is to light for the way I operate.
Looks like this attached but does not have the heavy black base
Make a reasonable offer
BOB LECH  AF2DX


Re: CW Keys

David Lipow
 

Hello  Jerry,

I'm interested in the USN CMI-26003A explosion proof key. If you could please send me a picture.  Thanks. 
 73'S
David H. Lipow  KA3RYS
4SQRP #57

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 5:05 PM, "'J.K. Wright' wrightjk@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:


 
I have a number of keys and sounders from the estate of a ham friend who was more a collector than an operator. They are interesting and in nice shape.  Here is a listing with asking prices.  If you are interested, email me directly.  I can provide photos of all items, for review.  I prefer USPS money order or Walmart xfer.  Reasonable offers considered.
 
Jerry, NK2C
 
- J. Bunnell & Co., New York, USA Sounder  - $65
- W.U. Texco Sounder - $80
- German “stecker herausziehen” military key - $85
- Old unbadged Vibroplex Original style bug (pix reviewed by Tom Perera, W1TP – believes it to be a real Vibroplex, not a knock-off) - $90
- Vibroplex Original, Chrome base #249566 - $120
- J. Junker honnef – RH D.B.G.M. key with leg clamp - $160
- J-38, Lionel, 2 keys - $40 each
- J-38, no name - $30
- Small Russian KGB Mini Key - $75
- Signal Electric, Menominee, MI spark key with slate base - $60
- USN CMI-26003A explosion proof key - $40
- Wm. Nye Co., key / oscillator - $35





Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ed - ad7gr
 

That seems to be the real issue... and the folks in GB have discussed this as well... not much out there for a 10W, multi-band rig with an economical price being manufactured. No free lunch expected but it would be nice to have dessert occasionally. ;-)

73,
Ed - ad7gr
skcc #30T
www.edliko.net

On 7/14/2016 9:00 AM, kk5ib01@gmail.com [4sqrp] wrote:

Ed,
When you say multiple bands, 10 watts, low power consumption, I don't know anything in the economical range. The new Elecraft KX2 meets your first three requirements at $750 base, but well over $1000 with its extras. I had the same requirements for a base station QRP radio and ended up with a K2 at over $1000 when I had it set up like I wanted. No free lunch that I know of.
Darryl, KK5IB

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Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ed - ad7gr
 

Exactly.

73,
Ed - ad7gr
skcc #30T
www.edliko.net

On 7/14/2016 9:54 AM, kk5ib01@gmail.com [4sqrp] wrote:

Good radio, but not 10 watts, Yaesu says Don't even try 10 watts.
Darryl, KK5IB


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ed - ad7gr
 

I am considering it since finding that Icom discontinued the IC-703, but I would like to find a 10W rig. Lately I have been able to hold a QSO using 10W but lost it when dropping to 5W.

73,
Ed - ad7gr
skcc #30T
www.edliko.net

On 7/14/2016 9:09 AM, David Martin davemrtn@centurytel.net [4sqrp] wrote:

Ed,

Have you looked at the Yaesu FT-817 ?

I have one and it is my favorite radio of all the ones I have or have owned previously. You would have to pry it from my "cold dead hands".

NA1MH


Re: Low Cost 10W All Band Xcvr

Ed - ad7gr
 

Thanks Paul, but I have a KX1 (4 band, 4W) and want to find a 10W rig.

73,
Ed - ad7gr
skcc #30T
www.edliko.net

On 7/14/2016 7:55 AM, paul Bonham wrote:

I have been looking at the youkits hb-1b mk3.
It is a QRP 40,30,20,17,&15 meter transceiver.

Would not cover your 10 meter but at $299.00 usd might be worth lookingg at.



Paul Bonham
KG5NKW


CW Keys

J.K. Wright
 

I have a number of keys and sounders from the estate of a ham friend who was more a collector than an operator. They are interesting and in nice shape.  Here is a listing with asking prices.  If you are interested, email me directly.  I can provide photos of all items, for review.  I prefer USPS money order or Walmart xfer.  Reasonable offers considered.

 

Jerry, NK2C

 

- J. Bunnell & Co., New York, USA Sounder  - $65

- W.U. Texco Sounder - $80

- German “stecker herausziehen” military key - $85

- Old unbadged Vibroplex Original style bug (pix reviewed by Tom Perera, W1TP – believes it to be a real Vibroplex, not a knock-off) - $90

- Vibroplex Original, Chrome base #249566 - $120

- J. Junker honnef – RH D.B.G.M. key with leg clamp - $160

- J-38, Lionel, 2 keys - $40 each

- J-38, no name - $30

- Small Russian KGB Mini Key - $75

- Signal Electric, Menominee, MI spark key with slate base - $60

- USN CMI-26003A explosion proof key - $40

- Wm. Nye Co., key / oscillator - $35



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