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Re: MAKING YOUR OWN PC BOARDS
Jim, N5IB
Chuck has a nice video series on You Tube
the first part is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6AmT1trO60 The presentation Nick and I will give at OzarkCon is about pretty much the same process. We just use the commercially sold transfer paper instead. I've found it is a bit faster and gave more consistent results and really isn't that costly. A $15 pack is enough to do several dozens of boards. I've been working on the same pack for three years now. We'll also be talking about how to take the next step to using commercial board fab services. These are getting very reasonable now days. And since you generally get several boards at a time, its a great way to share projects. Doug is right, if you latch on to some bargains, especially for the laminator and printer (or maybe you have the printer already) the rest of the stuff is little more than the cost of a pizza delivery. And you literally can go from a (simple) circuit idea to a finished board in an hour. Guys even profess success with a common household iron, but I've not been so lucky :^)) Jim, N5IB ---In 4sqrp@..., <af4k@...> wrote : This sounds great! Thanks for the shopping list. Can you tell us where to find a description by Chuck of how to make the boards? I would love to start using his method! Bry, AF4K / WN4NRR
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Re: OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation
W0IIT
Ed,
You’ve done it again!! You and your wife have made Ocon an extra special place to be if you are a QRP/Homebrew sort of person!! Thanks for all you two do for the hobby and for QRP in particular!!!! cu es 72, Bart W Pittsburg, KS
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Re: Crystal sockets
Bry Carling <af4k@...>
We do have FT243 crystal sockets (and other types) at: http://af4k.com/crystal_sockets.htm 73 - Bry AF4K / WN4NRR
From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of 'Sam Neal' n5af@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:55 PM To: 4sqrp@... Subject: Re: Re: [4sqrp] Crystal sockets
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MAKING YOUR OWN PC BOARDS
Bry Carling <af4k@...>
This sounds great! Thanks for the shopping list.
Can you tell us where to find a description by Chuck of how to make the boards? I would love to start using his method! Bry, AF4K / WN4NRR
From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Doug Hendricks ki6ds1@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:10 AM To: 4sqrp@...; Walter - K5EST Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Re: OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation Gee, I didn't spend nearly that much for my supplies to build boards. I think Nick uses the Chuck Adams, K7QO method that is on his web site. I am a huge fan of that method, and have made over 100 boards without a single failure. After trying for over
20 years and failing every single time, I was amazed at how easy it is once you use Chuck's method. Here is what I spent:
Laminator $25 Ebay
Samsung 2020 Laser Printer, $49 Fry's
Pyrex dish, $5 dollar store
Digital Thermometer, $8 Harbor Freight
Plastic clamp $1 for 6, Harbor Freight
3% Hydrogen Peroxide, $1.89 for 32 ounces, Lucky's Grocery Store
Muriatic Acid, $5 gallon, Home Depot
Steel Wool, $2 Home Depot
3m scouring pad, $2 Orchard Supply
pcb, ebay $7
Adds up to $105.89.
Guess you guys must be including the computer, lol. I recommend that you attend Nick's session, you will learn a lot. The best thing is that you will then be able to build any circuit you want to. It is like unlocking the world. 72, Doug
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Walter - K5EST
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Re: OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation
davemrtn
Doug, Nick is giving a
presentation specifically on this subject at the coming
OzarkCon. Perhaps you would want to attend to get his first
hand information ?? David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain
Home, Ar.
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Re: QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot!
Bry Carling <af4k@...>
Oh now I see the other link - thank you Sam!
From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Johnny Matlock jomatlock@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:59 PM To: 4sqrp@...; Sam Neal Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Pretty neat Sam
But also kinda pricey!!
Although, transformers are out of sight in price now days!
72
Johnny AC0BQ
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Re: QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot!
Bry Carling <af4k@...>
How would yo order it? I see nothing on the web site that lets you order. Also I e-mailed NT9K and got no reply. Bry WN4NRR
From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Paul Smith psmith61@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 9:30 PM To: Sam Neal; 4sqrp@...; Johnny Matlock Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! I am almost tempted to order a slatboard transmitter and pwr supply. I built on in 1990 and made a few contacts on it. it spit fire and cracklerd some but was fun. I saw some pieces in the attic a while back..... It was fun but not near as pretty as the pictures online. de Paul N0NBD
Sent from Outlook From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Johnny Matlock jomatlock@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:59 AM To: 4sqrp@...; Sam Neal Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Pretty neat Sam
But also kinda pricey!!
Although, transformers are out of sight in price now days!
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Re: OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation
davemrtn
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On 2/21/2017 17:12, wg5f@...
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Re: OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation
Doug Hendricks <ki6ds1@...>
Gee, I didn't spend nearly that much for my supplies to build boards. I think Nick uses the Chuck Adams, K7QO method that is on his web site. I am a huge fan of that method, and have made over 100 boards without a single failure. After trying for over 20 years and failing every single time, I was amazed at how easy it is once you use Chuck's method. Here is what I spent: Laminator $25 Ebay Samsung 2020 Laser Printer, $49 Fry's Pyrex dish, $5 dollar store Digital Thermometer, $8 Harbor Freight Plastic clamp $1 for 6, Harbor Freight 3% Hydrogen Peroxide, $1.89 for 32 ounces, Lucky's Grocery Store Muriatic Acid, $5 gallon, Home Depot Steel Wool, $2 Home Depot 3m scouring pad, $2 Orchard Supply pcb, ebay $7 Adds up to $105.89. Guess you guys must be including the computer, lol. I recommend that you attend Nick's session, you will learn a lot. The best thing is that you will then be able to build any circuit you want to. It is like unlocking the world. 72, Doug
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Re: QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot!
Paul Smith
I am almost tempted to order a slatboard transmitter and pwr supply. I built on in 1990 and made a few contacts on it. it spit fire and cracklerd some but was fun. I saw some pieces in the attic a while back..... It was fun but not near as pretty as the pictures online. de Paul N0NBD
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From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Johnny Matlock jomatlock@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:59 AM To: 4sqrp@...; Sam Neal Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Pretty neat Sam
But also kinda pricey!!
Although, transformers are out of sight in price now days!
72
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Pretty neat Sam But also kinda pricey!! Although, transformers are out of sight in price now days! 72 Johnny AC0BQ
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Re: OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation
Amazing prize drawing! Thanks, Ed. 73....Walter - K5EST
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Re: For sale: VRX-1 receiver kit
The VRX-1 kit has been SOLD. Thanks.
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OzarkCon Alert: Special Prize Package after the 60 Minute Circuit Board presentation
At OzarkCon on Saturday morning: We're going to have a SPECIAL drawing immediately after the "60 Minute Circuit Boards" presentation by Jim & Nick. We've lined up over $600 worth of supplies and equipment for making your own circuit boards. It'll be given to one lucky winner! You MUST BE PRESENT at the time the winning ticket is called. Someone is going to be fully setup INSTANTLY to make their own circuit boards... We've got some great donors and 4SQRP is also contributing some of the equipment. 72,
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K2 is Sold
Darryl J Kelly
Subject line says it all.
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Re: QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot!
Sam Neal
Bry,
Try this link also. You may have to manually type it in. Sam N5AF KN5LZJ in 1957 pastimeprojects.com
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Sam Neal
Hello,
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My mistake - I confused two different kitters. NT9K's projects reflect a lot of labor into making a beautiful project. However, I should have sent the following link. I bought one from him ( the below link ) and it is on my " round-tuit " list. pastimeprojects.com/transmitterkits.html Sorry about the mistake. Hang around - I will probably make more with my 75 year old brain! hi 73, Sam Neal N5AF __________________________________________________________________
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Received: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:08:38 AM CST From: "Bry Carling af4k@hotmail.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com> To: Sam Neal <n5af@usa.net>, "4sqrp@yahoogroups.com" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Sam are you SURE he sells these as kits? I can't find anything on his web pages about how to order a kit. Some of us would be interested for sure! Bry, WN4NRR ________________________________ From: Sam Neal <n5af@usa.net> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:00 PM To: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com; Bry Carling; Sam Neal Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Hello Bob N6KL, The old 1950's era " slat-board " 6V6 transmitters like the one you described that I discovered in the 1955 " ARRL How To Become A Radio Amateur " are available as kits - should you be interested. Go to: http://www.nt9k.com/slatboard.html [http://www.nt9k.com/image/slatboard9.jpg]<http://www.nt9k.com/slatboard.html> NT9K Slatboard Transmitter Project<http://www.nt9k.com/slatboard.html> www.nt9k.com This is my 1940's era 6L6G slatboard transmitter and power supply project. The transformer has secondaries at 385v, 6.3v and 5v. The rectifier tube is a 5Y3G. He has other kits also including the slat-board power supply. 73, Sam Neal N5AF __________________________________________________________ ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 02:34:35 PM CST From: "Bry Carling af4k@hotmail.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com> To: "4sqrp@yahoogroups.com" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>, Bob Nelson <rln37@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Great story Bob - thanks for sharing your recollections! We all have some kind of interesting background on how we came into the radio hobby. I have already worked about 10-12 QRP stations in the NRR this week. Many QRP guys like the NRR because it is a sensible speed, and not all crazy PLUS the ops listen VERY carefully for weaker signals since most of us are using 25 - 35 watts Thanks for your comments and your interest - Bry AF4K http://NoviceRigROundup.com NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP 2017<http://novicerigroundup.com/> novicerigroundup.com ANNOUNCING NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP 2017!!! The dates are 0000 UTC on FEB 18 through 2359 UTC on FEB 26, 2017 - that is 9 full days (UTC.) GOOD NEWS: THIS WILL COVER two ... NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP 2017<http://novicerigroundup.com/> novicerigroundup.com ANNOUNCING NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP 2017!!! The dates are 0000 UTC on FEB 18 through 2359 UTC on FEB 26, 2017 - that is 9 full days (UTC.) GOOD NEWS: THIS WILL COVER two ... ________________________________ From: Bob Nelson <rln37@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 2:25 PM To: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com; Bry Carling Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Wish I still had my Novice rig. it was a 6V6 xtal oscillator built on two strips of 1x2 wood, from an idea in an issue of CQ magazine of about 1951 or 1952 vintage, IIRC. But I built it about 1956 - when I was a bona fide Novice. The receiver was a Heathkit AR-3 I built in the Fall that year, after working in an auto-wrecking yard all summer to raise the cash. I got 90 cents an hour, and my father took half for "room and board". I'll never forget the first time I heard my own call sign coming back to me pursuant to a CQ. I was KN6ZGQ at that time. (My present call is a "used" one I asked to be assigned when the original OM passed away.) Then the first transistors became available the next year. I got one, a CK722 from Raytheon, for $2.40, with a refund of $1.40 because the price had dropped while my money was in the mail. That transistor was so fascinating that I became a builder more than an operator, and have always been that way ever since. Electronics became my lifetime profession. Even got an advanced degree in EE, and a medal while I was in the military back around 1967 for "solving" a "electronic intelligence" problem all branches of the military had been spending MILLIONS of dollars on every year -- a problem most any experienced radio ham could have handled same as I did. So I have a whole lot I owe to our "hobby" - perhaps the most useful, beneficial and valuable hobby anyone could ever engage in. May the Novice Roundup last forever ! 73 - Bob, K6KL On Monday, February 20, 2017 12:16 PM, "Bry Carling af4k@hotmail.com [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks Bobby! jump in and join the fun, QRP friends. Begin forwarded message: From: Bobby Drummond <alphak4ja@gmail.com<mailto:alphak4ja@gmail.com>> Date: February 20, 2017 Just a reminder that the Novice Rig Round Up is in full swing and continues until next weekend - until February 28th at 2359 UTC. Here is the URL for the NRR: www.novicerigroundup.com<http://www.novicerigroundup.com/<http://www.novicerigroundup.com<http://www.novicerigroundup.com/>> There is full information about this year's Novice Rig Round Up (you don't have to be running a Novice license rig to participate) and information about the previous years' NRRs. There is also a convenient online logging program (or you can choose to submit an ADIF file, for instance, when you finish, etc) When you finish you can submit something to the "Soapbox" -- including pictures -- if you'd like as well. This is my first year participating in the NRR and I'm having a ball. I'm using my homebrew MOPA rig (on 40 meters) that I've mentioned several times on the list and also using a homebrew solid state 80 meter rig. It's great to exchange NRR numbers and hear some chirps, follow some drifting VFOs and also work some rock steady novice era rigs. If you really want to take a ride on the way-back machine, work another NRR participant "duplex" for more realistic feelings of how it was back in the novice days. (Call CQ on your crystal frequency and then tune up and down that section of the band for a response that might be dozens of kilocycles away from your transmitting frequency.) There is a chat room website for setting up skeds or maybe just for the camaraderie with your fellow Novice rig brothers/sisters of key. The best part? it doesn't cost a single dime to participate (even though donations to help offset some of the expenses are appreciated) Come on, join the fun. If you've got one, get that old rig outta' the closet and enter the fray. This Novice Rig Round Up thing is a hoot! 73 de Bobby Drummond - AK4JA
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Jumper QSO's
First off, let me congratulate Joe, N3HEE on that VK7 contact. So far
my best distance has been between Park City, KS and Stanford, FL (AF4K) with my Bayou Jumper. Mine was enough to be one of the early qualifiers for Double Oh status but it was only 1719.3 KM compared to Joe's 10K+ KM QSO with Australia. Well done Sir, well done! I was tuning around with mine this morning and had an interesting round table QSO myself. I normally get on 40 QRO somewhere in the vicinity of 7.023-7.028 with one of my collection of bug keys. I usually run my K3S/KPA500 combination at around 400-450 watts to an Alpha Delta DX-LB 160/80/40 meter dipole. I have a PAR EndFedZ 40/20/10 QRP antenna set fairly low over the roof of the house that works surprisingly well even though it should be an NVIS antenna as low as it's mounted and that's the antenna I use with the Jumper as it's on a switch that allows it to work as an auxiliary RX antenna on the K3S or switched to whatever rig I'm playing with on the desk. I had the BJ on the EDZ this morning as signals were pretty decent on the low end of 40 and I came across a couple of guys I work regularly, Benny-K5KV and Don-WB6BEE chatting on 7.025. I plugged in my 7.030 crystal and adjusted the little tuner for best SWR which gave me 4.9 watts out according to my YouKits DP-1. I switched to the trimmable 7.025 rock which turned out to be right on zero with the two and gave my call. Both heard me. I was using my hand key so they didn't recognize my fist right away but I quickly got out my Vibroplex Blue Racer bug (only one I have with an 1/8" plug on the cable) and plugged it in. Got a 579 out of K5KV down in Star, TX and 579 to 589 out of WB6BEE who lives in Pagosa Springs, CO. The broad RX passband in the Jumper was hearing a JA station up the band a bit but I didn't try to work him as I couldn't shift the 7.025 crystal far enough to get close to his frequency. Benny, K5KV shut his amp off and lowered power to 5 watts and we were able to maintain a decent contact with QRP levels both ways. I then shut the Jumper off and put the K3S on as I normally do to complete the QSO with both of them as there was some deep QSB that took them out of the Jumper's RX. The K3S will copy signals right down on the noise so that was the better choice. Seriously, I've had many different QRP rigs over the years but the Bayou Jumper ranks right up there with the best of them and I think it's been the most fun rig to build and operate of any of them. There are rigs with better receivers and rigs with better transmitters but this combination works just fine and when the band is open there isn't a contact beyond reach. Jim - W0EB
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Re: QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot!
Bry Carling <af4k@...>
Sam are you SURE he sells these as kits?
I can't find anything on his web pages about how to order a kit. Some of us would be interested for sure!
Bry, WN4NRR
From: Sam Neal
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:00 PM To: 4sqrp@...; Bry Carling; Sam Neal Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Hello Bob N6KL,
The old 1950's era " slat-board " 6V6 transmitters like the one you described that I discovered in the 1955 " ARRL How To Become A Radio Amateur " are available as kits - should you be interested. Go to: http://www.nt9k.com/slatboard.html
He has other kits also including the slat-board power supply. 73, Sam Neal N5AF __________________________________________________________ ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 02:34:35 PM CST From: "Bry Carling af4k@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> To: "4sqrp@..." <4sqrp@...>, Bob Nelson Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Great story Bob - thanks for sharing your recollections! We all have some kind of interesting background on how we came into the radio hobby. I have already worked about 10-12 QRP stations in the NRR this week. Many QRP guys like the NRR because it is a sensible speed, and not all crazy PLUS the ops listen VERY carefully for weaker signals since most of us are using 25 - 35 watts Thanks for your comments and your interest - Bry AF4K http://NoviceRigROundup.com
NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP 2017<http://novicerigroundup.com/> novicerigroundup.com ANNOUNCING NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP 2017!!! The dates are 0000 UTC on FEB 18 through 2359 UTC on FEB 26, 2017 - that is 9 full days (UTC.) GOOD NEWS: THIS WILL COVER two ... ________________________________ From: Bob Nelson Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 2:25 PM To: 4sqrp@...; Bry Carling Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Wish I still had my Novice rig. it was a 6V6 xtal oscillator built on two strips of 1x2 wood, from an idea in an issue of CQ magazine of about 1951 or 1952 vintage, IIRC. But I built it about 1956 - when I was a bona fide Novice. The receiver was a Heathkit AR-3 I built in the Fall that year, after working in an auto-wrecking yard all summer to raise the cash. I got 90 cents an hour, and my father took half for "room and board". I'll never forget the first time I heard my own call sign coming back to me pursuant to a CQ. I was KN6ZGQ at that time. (My present call is a "used" one I asked to be assigned when the original OM passed away.) Then the first transistors became available the next year. I got one, a CK722 from Raytheon, for $2.40, with a refund of $1.40 because the price had dropped while my money was in the mail. That transistor was so fascinating that I became a builder more than an operator, and have always been that way ever since. Electronics became my lifetime profession. Even got an advanced degree in EE, and a medal while I was in the military back around 1967 for "solving" a "electronic intelligence" problem all branches of the military had been spending MILLIONS of dollars on every year -- a problem most any experienced radio ham could have handled same as I did. So I have a whole lot I owe to our "hobby" - perhaps the most useful, beneficial and valuable hobby anyone could ever engage in. May the Novice Roundup last forever ! 73 - Bob, K6KL On Monday, February 20, 2017 12:16 PM, "Bry Carling af4k@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote: Thanks Bobby! jump in and join the fun, QRP friends. Begin forwarded message: From: Bobby Drummond > Date: February 20, 2017 Just a reminder that the Novice Rig Round Up is in full swing and continues until next weekend - until February 28th at 2359 UTC. Here is the URL for the NRR: www.novicerigroundup.com> There is full information about this year's Novice Rig Round Up (you don't have to be running a Novice license rig to participate) and information about the previous years' NRRs. There is also a convenient online logging program (or you can choose to submit an ADIF file, for instance, when you finish, etc) When you finish you can submit something to the "Soapbox" -- including pictures -- if you'd like as well. This is my first year participating in the NRR and I'm having a ball. I'm using my homebrew MOPA rig (on 40 meters) that I've mentioned several times on the list and also using a homebrew solid state 80 meter rig. It's great to exchange NRR numbers and hear some chirps, follow some drifting VFOs and also work some rock steady novice era rigs. If you really want to take a ride on the way-back machine, work another NRR participant "duplex" for more realistic feelings of how it was back in the novice days. (Call CQ on your crystal frequency and then tune up and down that section of the band for a response that might be dozens of kilocycles away from your transmitting frequency.) There is a chat room website for setting up skeds or maybe just for the camaraderie with your fellow Novice rig brothers/sisters of key. The best part? it doesn't cost a single dime to participate (even though donations to help offset some of the expenses are appreciated) Come on, join the fun. If you've got one, get that old rig outta' the closet and enter the fray. This Novice Rig Round Up thing is a hoot! 73 de Bobby Drummond - AK4JA
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Bry Carling <af4k@...>
I worked two more QRP stations in the past 24 hours here in Novice Rig Roundup:
AK4JA and AJ4JA
Amazing coincidence. BOTH are QRP stations!!
72 - Bry, WN4NRR
From: Bob Nelson
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:05 PM To: 4sqrp@...; Bry Carling Subject: Re: [4sqrp] QRP & Novice Rig Round Up - It's a Hoot! Oops. I think I should have said 7163, NOT 7063.
Bob, K6KL
On Monday, February 20, 2017 12:16 PM, "Bry Carling af4k@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:
Thanks Bobby! jump in and join the fun, QRP friends.
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