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Re: OT - USPS

Tim N9PUZ
 

I will admit to having some bias here since my son works for the USPS.

I don't understand why anyone complains about USPS for SENDING anything. Using them is totally optional. You are perfectly free to send each and every one of your letters, QSL cards, etc. via FedEx, United Parcel, DHL, etc.

Tim N9PUZ


Re: OT - USPS

Ken Talbott
 

USPS drives down my .5 mile driveway to deliver any package that requires signature or that will not fit in box.  Not had a problem since I started giving Christmas fruitcake.  An occasional platter from Foodlion hand delivered to the PO doesn’t hurt.

Ken ke4rg

 

From: 4sqrp@... [mailto:4sqrp@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:57 PM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] OT - USPS

 

 

I live 1.2 miles off the state maintained roads here on Bald Top Mountain in Alexander County, NC on a asphalt paved road maintained by all the homeowners in the subdivision paying $20 per month for road maintenance and when I get a package that won't fit in the mailbox the postman leaves me one of those brown slips of paper to pick it up at the post office which is a 14 mile round trip. I contacted the Postmaster and ask him couldn't the courier drive 1.2 miles off his route to deliver my package rather than make me drive 14 miles to get it and he said, no, that it's their policy that the mail courier isn't allowed to alter their regular route by more than ½ mile! My first thought when he said that was it's no wonder the USPS runs in the red every single year! It certainly isn't customer service oriented!

 

Very 73/72

Cliff - KU4GW

4SQRP # 536

 


Re: OT - USPS

Ross Henderson
 

Silly person you, get a bigger mailbox!
--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 3/18/17, cliffku4gw@gmail.com [4sqrp] <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [4sqrp] OT - USPS
To: 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 18, 2017, 8:56 PM


 









I live 1.2 miles off the state maintained roads
here on Bald Top Mountain in Alexander County, NC on a
asphalt paved road maintained by all the homeowners in the
subdivision paying $20 per month for road maintenance and
when I get a package that won't fit in the mailbox the
postman leaves me one of those brown slips of paper to pick
it up at the post office which is a 14 mile round trip. I
contacted the Postmaster and ask him couldn't the
courier drive 1.2 miles off his route to deliver my package
rather than make me drive 14 miles to get it and he said,
no, that it's their policy that the mail courier
isn't allowed to alter their regular route by more than
½ mile! My first thought when he said that was it's no
wonder the USPS runs in the red every single year! It
certainly isn't customer service oriented!
Very 73/72Cliff -
KU4GW4SQRP # 536










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Re: OT - USPS

Cliff Fox (KU4GW)
 

I live 1.2 miles off the state maintained roads here on Bald Top Mountain in Alexander County, NC on a asphalt paved road maintained by all the homeowners in the subdivision paying $20 per month for road maintenance and when I get a package that won't fit in the mailbox the postman leaves me one of those brown slips of paper to pick it up at the post office which is a 14 mile round trip. I contacted the Postmaster and ask him couldn't the courier drive 1.2 miles off his route to deliver my package rather than make me drive 14 miles to get it and he said, no, that it's their policy that the mail courier isn't allowed to alter their regular route by more than ½ mile! My first thought when he said that was it's no wonder the USPS runs in the red every single year! It certainly isn't customer service oriented!

Very 73/72
Cliff - KU4GW
4SQRP # 536


Re: OT - USPS

Todd K7TFC
 

On Mar 18, 2017 10:21 AM, "'J.K. Wright' wrightjk@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:

Not my experience here in CNY. Helpful, friendly, deliver promptly via ebay, Amazon, and qrz sales.

In 59 years, I've never had a bit of problem with the USPS. Complaining about the Post Office is merely conventional, like men complaining about their wives. It's ritualized discontent. If you're good at playing it up, you can successfully run for office.

73, 

Todd K7TFC



Re: USPS vs Check Id 2

davemrtn
 

A bit difficult to discuss this year's OzarkCon since I haven't been to it yet !!

David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------

On 3/18/2017 13:15, Rich Fowler k8meg@... [4sqrp] wrote:
 
Don't really think this is an issue with USPS, but with the thinking behind Check ID.
Thinking that "Check Id" deters thief is a little out dated. If someone steals your
wallet, they have your Id. Signature verification is a possible reason, but I can order
online without a signature. More and more, entering your zip code seem to requested.
Maybe next step will be finger print or eye scans. j/k

How about the guy on the phone at check out snapping a photo of your credit card
or the nice young lady at the restaurant taking your card? There are all kinds of risks.
How about paying with cash? Oh, that's right, we're a cashless society.

I think it is a disservice to bad mouth the USPS and worker for doing their job.

Maybe the discussion should be about "Check Id" vs "signed" instead?

Not posting to debate the various issues of USPS or how we use our credit card.

Would rather see post about Ozarkcon, SOTA, etc.




Re: USPS vs Check Id

davemrtn
 

Rich,

    My original post was not meant to stir up vigorous discussion/argument.

    I shared what happened at my local USPS and was trying to determine if this was a practice only at my local USPS or if nation wide.


David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------

On 3/18/2017 13:15, Rich Fowler k8meg@... [4sqrp] wrote:
 
Don't really think this is an issue with USPS, but with the thinking behind Check ID.
Thinking that "Check Id" deters thief is a little out dated. If someone steals your
wallet, they have your Id. Signature verification is a possible reason, but I can order
online without a signature. More and more, entering your zip code seem to requested.
Maybe next step will be finger print or eye scans. j/k

How about the guy on the phone at check out snapping a photo of your credit card
or the nice young lady at the restaurant taking your card? There are all kinds of risks.
How about paying with cash? Oh, that's right, we're a cashless society.

I think it is a disservice to bad mouth the USPS and worker for doing their job.

Maybe the discussion should be about "Check Id" vs "signed" instead?

Not posting to debate the various issues of USPS or how we use our credit card.

Would rather see post about Ozarkcon, SOTA, etc.




USPS vs Check Id

Rich Fowler <k8meg@...>
 

Don't really think this is an issue with USPS, but with the thinking behind Check ID.
Thinking that "Check Id" deters thief is a little out dated. If someone steals your
wallet, they have your Id. Signature verification is a possible reason, but I can order
online without a signature. More and more, entering your zip code seem to requested.
Maybe next step will be finger print or eye scans. j/k

How about the guy on the phone at check out snapping a photo of your credit card
or the nice young lady at the restaurant taking your card? There are all kinds of risks.
How about paying with cash? Oh, that's right, we're a cashless society.

I think it is a disservice to bad mouth the USPS and worker for doing their job.

Maybe the discussion should be about "Check Id" vs "signed" instead?

Not posting to debate the various issues of USPS or how we use our credit card.

Would rather see post about Ozarkcon, SOTA, etc.



Items for sale Update and price reductions

w9qs@...
 

The Wattmeter is again available.   
Again,  PLEASE contact me of list!!!


From: "w9qs@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...>
To: "4sqrp" <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:34:53 PM
Subject: [4sqrp] Items for sale

 


I want to give the 4SQRP group first shot at the following.

I hope to be able to deliver these at Ozarkcon to save shipping.

QPR Quarterly  1988  through April 2015  (Missing Winter 2014)  Offers



Bird 43 Wattmeter with leather case and VHF inserts.    $125.00   

PIC-EL III Programmer with ZIF socket  (One trace repaired  on reverse)   $35.00




Please contact me of list and thanks for the bandwidth.

Mike, W9QS




Re: OT - USPS

J.K. Wright
 

Not my experience here in CNY. Helpful, friendly, deliver promptly via ebay, Amazon, and qrz sales experience. As far as applying the rules...too bad, that is their job. I suppose we should operate out of band because we don't like the FCC rules....probably not. Remember - they deal with folks like us all day, every day....:)

On Mar 18, 2017 1:00 PM, "Dean L dean.k2ww@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

Thats what appens when you give some people a little authority.
My usps guy is the same way.

His attitude?- Go to my competition.

The kind of guy who constantly had his lunch money stolen as a youngster ...hihi
Wish UPS would put them out of business. Oh, wait it's the feds they'll just throw money at it.

73 Dean K2WW


On Mar 17, 2017 1:27 AM, "David Martin davemrtn@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

My local USPS office has started a new practice and I wanting to see if this is now a nation wide practice.

My local USPS will not accept a credit card unless it is signed on the back.

Is this now the practice at your local USPS ??

I have always written "Check ID" in the white box on back to deter unauthorized use, but they don't care.  AND, if there is a signature on back, they don't bother to check ID's if that is requested on the card.

I borrowed the workers felt-tip pen and signed my in the smallest unreadable pen that I could and he said "good enough, I'll accept that".... honest, if you looked at you can't tell what it is.

The next time I went to the USPS to ship something, I wrote a check.  I was very meticulous at filling in the register book and writing the check.  And when the postal worker started tapping her fingers on the counter, I became even more meticulous.

When you use a credit card over the phone, or internet, no one checks for signatures - they CAN'T.  I went to my congressman's local office to register a complaint and his assistant was surprised to hear about the new practice, and said he also has "Check ID" written on the back of his cards.



--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------


Re: OT - USPS

Dean LaClair
 

Thats what appens when you give some people a little authority.
My usps guy is the same way.

His attitude?- Go to my competition.

The kind of guy who constantly had his lunch money stolen as a youngster ...hihi
Wish UPS would put them out of business. Oh, wait it's the feds they'll just throw money at it.

73 Dean K2WW


On Mar 17, 2017 1:27 AM, "David Martin davemrtn@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

My local USPS office has started a new practice and I wanting to see if this is now a nation wide practice.

My local USPS will not accept a credit card unless it is signed on the back.

Is this now the practice at your local USPS ??

I have always written "Check ID" in the white box on back to deter unauthorized use, but they don't care.  AND, if there is a signature on back, they don't bother to check ID's if that is requested on the card.

I borrowed the workers felt-tip pen and signed my in the smallest unreadable pen that I could and he said "good enough, I'll accept that".... honest, if you looked at you can't tell what it is.

The next time I went to the USPS to ship something, I wrote a check.  I was very meticulous at filling in the register book and writing the check.  And when the postal worker started tapping her fingers on the counter, I became even more meticulous.

When you use a credit card over the phone, or internet, no one checks for signatures - they CAN'T.  I went to my congressman's local office to register a complaint and his assistant was surprised to hear about the new practice, and said he also has "Check ID" written on the back of his cards.



--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------


Re: Wanted LTA straight key

Bob Nelson
 

Dale, I guess this means someone else got the J-38.
But thanks for letting me know.
73 - Bob, K6KL


On Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:42 AM, "Dale Putnam daleputnam@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:


 
Pending confirmation of funds, the J-38 has been spoken for.

Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln



From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Dale Putnam daleputnam@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:03 PM
To: 4sqrp@...; Paul Ross
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Re: Wanted LTA straight key
 
 
I have a nice J-38, and can send photos too..
I'd let someone have it for $82 and I'll pay shipping.
Nice with a heavy base, with labels for "line" and "tel" and "J-38"
photos available.
Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln



From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Paul Ross deadgoose@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:37 PM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: Wanted LTA straight key
 
 
Have you considered the key kits from American Morse Equipment? I have
the KK1, and like it. Also J-38s are on Ebay, but they tend to get a
pretty good price for them.

73 /paul W3FIS

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Re: Wanted LTA straight key

Dale Putnam
 

Pending confirmation of funds, the J-38 has been spoken for.


Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln



From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Dale Putnam daleputnam@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:03 PM
To: 4sqrp@...; Paul Ross
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Re: Wanted LTA straight key
 
 

I have a nice J-38, and can send photos too..

I'd let someone have it for $82 and I'll pay shipping.

Nice with a heavy base, with labels for "line" and "tel" and "J-38"

photos available.

Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln



From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Paul Ross deadgoose@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:37 PM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: Wanted LTA straight key
 
 

Have you considered the key kits from American Morse Equipment? I have
the KK1, and like it. Also J-38s are on Ebay, but they tend to get a
pretty good price for them.

73 /paul W3FIS

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Re: Wanted LTA straight key

Bob Nelson
 

Dale,
if no one else has first dibs, I'd like to buy that J-38.
73 - Bob, K6KL

BTW - Abraham Lincoln was misquoted.  What he really said was:
"CW speaks louder than any voice mode."


On Friday, March 17, 2017 10:03 PM, "Dale Putnam daleputnam@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:


 
I have a nice J-38, and can send photos too..
I'd let someone have it for $82 and I'll pay shipping.
Nice with a heavy base, with labels for "line" and "tel" and "J-38"
photos available.
Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln



From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Paul Ross deadgoose@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:37 PM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: Wanted LTA straight key
 
 
Have you considered the key kits from American Morse Equipment? I have
the KK1, and like it. Also J-38s are on Ebay, but they tend to get a
pretty good price for them.

73 /paul W3FIS

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Re: Wanted LTA straight key

Dale Putnam
 

I have a nice J-38, and can send photos too..

I'd let someone have it for $82 and I'll pay shipping.

Nice with a heavy base, with labels for "line" and "tel" and "J-38"

photos available.

Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln



From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of Paul Ross deadgoose@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:37 PM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: Wanted LTA straight key
 
 

Have you considered the key kits from American Morse Equipment? I have
the KK1, and like it. Also J-38s are on Ebay, but they tend to get a
pretty good price for them.

73 /paul W3FIS

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Re: Wanted LTA straight key

Paul Ross <deadgoose@...>
 

Have you considered the key kits from American Morse Equipment? I have the KK1, and like it. Also J-38s are on Ebay, but they tend to get a pretty good price for them.

73 /paul W3FIS


Re: OT - USPS

Cecil Bayona <cecil.bayona@...>
 

On 3/17/2017 12:40 AM, 'AG1P Ron' ag1p@earthlink.net [4sqrp] wrote:


I haven’t been checked and I was there two days ago buying stamps - but
I have small town PO and they know me on first name basis.



72 - Ron AG1P



*From:*4sqrp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:4sqrp@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:09 AM
*To:* 4sqrp@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [4sqrp] OT - USPS





My local USPS office has started a new practice and I wanting to see if
this is now a nation wide practice.

My local USPS will not accept a credit card unless it is signed on the back.

Is this now the practice at your local USPS ??

I have always written "Check ID" in the white box on back to deter
unauthorized use, but they don't care. AND, if there is a signature on
back, they don't bother to check ID's if that is requested on the card.

I borrowed the workers felt-tip pen and signed my in the smallest
unreadable pen that I could and he said "good enough, I'll accept
that".... honest, if you looked at you can't tell what it is.

The next time I went to the USPS to ship something, I wrote a check. I
was very meticulous at filling in the register book and writing the
check. And when the postal worker started tapping her fingers on the
counter, I became even more meticulous.

When you use a credit card over the phone, or internet, no one checks
for signatures - they CAN'T. I went to my congressman's local office to
register a complaint and his assistant was surprised to hear about the
new practice, and said he also has "Check ID" written on the back of his
cards.

--
David Martin - NA1MH <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/na1mh> - Mountain Home
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Re: OT - USPS

Tim N9PUZ
 

USPS maybe stepping up with having their clerks check but I believe that it is a Visa/Mastercard requirment that a merchant cannot accept an unsigned card for an in-person transaction.

Tim

On 3/16/2017 11:09 AM, David Martin davemrtn@... [4sqrp] wrote:
 

My local USPS office has started a new practice and I wanting to see if this is now a nation wide practice.

My local USPS will not accept a credit card unless it is signed on the back.

Is this now the practice at your local USPS ??

I have always written "Check ID" in the white box on back to deter unauthorized use, but they don't care.  AND, if there is a signature on back, they don't bother to check ID's if that is requested on the card.

I borrowed the workers felt-tip pen and signed my in the smallest unreadable pen that I could and he said "good enough, I'll accept that".... honest, if you looked at you can't tell what it is.

The next time I went to the USPS to ship something, I wrote a check.  I was very meticulous at filling in the register book and writing the check.  And when the postal worker started tapping her fingers on the counter, I became even more meticulous.

When you use a credit card over the phone, or internet, no one checks for signatures - they CAN'T.  I went to my congressman's local office to register a complaint and his assistant was surprised to hear about the new practice, and said he also has "Check ID" written on the back of his cards.



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Re: OT - USPS

Doug Reid
 

Since when has common sense played a role in the USPS ? :-)


On Friday, March 17, 2017 1:27 AM, "David Martin davemrtn@... [4sqrp]" <4sqrp@...> wrote:


 
My local USPS office has started a new practice and I wanting to see if this is now a nation wide practice.
My local USPS will not accept a credit card unless it is signed on the back.
Is this now the practice at your local USPS ??
I have always written "Check ID" in the white box on back to deter unauthorized use, but they don't care.  AND, if there is a signature on back, they don't bother to check ID's if that is requested on the card.
I borrowed the workers felt-tip pen and signed my in the smallest unreadable pen that I could and he said "good enough, I'll accept that".... honest, if you looked at you can't tell what it is.
The next time I went to the USPS to ship something, I wrote a check.  I was very meticulous at filling in the register book and writing the check.  And when the postal worker started tapping her fingers on the counter, I became even more meticulous.
When you use a credit card over the phone, or internet, no one checks for signatures - they CAN'T.  I went to my congressman's local office to register a complaint and his assistant was surprised to hear about the new practice, and said he also has "Check ID" written on the back of his cards.


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Re: OT - USPS

Paul Smith
 

I forgot about them running and hiding from over seas kits ba ha ha ha! I love it.

de Paul N0NBD


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From: Wayne Dillon
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 11:36 AM
To: 4sqrp@...; Paul Smith
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] OT - USPS
 
And me in Columbus KS, they used to run and hide when I brought in a bag of SS40's to ship overseas!
Wayne.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:23 AM, Paul Smith psmith61@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

Same here in Humboldt,KS

de Paul N0NBD


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From: 4sqrp@... <4sqrp@...> on behalf of 'AG1P Ron' ag1p@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 5:40 AM
To: 4sqrp@...; 'David Martin'
Subject: RE: [4sqrp] OT - USPS
 
 

I haven’t been checked and I was there two days ago buying stamps - but I have small town PO and they know me on first name basis.

 

72 - Ron AG1P

 

From: 4sqrp@... [mailto:4sqrp@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:09 AM
To: 4sqrp@...
Subject: [4sqrp] OT - USPS

 

 

My local USPS office has started a new practice and I wanting to see if this is now a nation wide practice.

My local USPS will not accept a credit card unless it is signed on the back.

Is this now the practice at your local USPS ??

I have always written "Check ID" in the white box on back to deter unauthorized use, but they don't care.  AND, if there is a signature on back, they don't bother to check ID's if that is requested on the card.

I borrowed the workers felt-tip pen and signed my in the smallest unreadable pen that I could and he said "good enough, I'll accept that".... honest, if you looked at you can't tell what it is.

The next time I went to the USPS to ship something, I wrote a check.  I was very meticulous at filling in the register book and writing the check.  And when the postal worker started tapping her fingers on the counter, I became even more meticulous.

When you use a credit card over the phone, or internet, no one checks for signatures - they CAN'T.  I went to my congressman's local office to register a complaint and his assistant was surprised to hear about the new practice, and said he also has "Check ID" written on the back of his cards.

 

 

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