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Re: Guidance on DMR - getting started

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Nice articles on DMR Jeff.
Thanks for sharing the links.
73
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 3:39 PM Jeff Logullo N0̸MII <jeff@...> wrote:
KE0FHS really puts a lot of time and effort in writing his stuff:


If and when you are thinking about DMR hotspots, his sections on hotspots and pi-star are also extremely valuable:


As you start reading, don't get discouraged. Eventually it will all start to make sense :-) 

Also: if you're interested in DMR, be sure to join the DigitalFM@4SQRP.groups.io sub-group. That's the best place to ask DMR-related questions that may go longer than a quick reply or two.

Jeff N0̸MII 

On Mar 20, 2019, at 3:21 PM, John Lonigro <jonigro@...> wrote:

Mike, N0SO, pointed this site out to me.  It should help a little.

http://www.modigitalgroup.org/images/Introduction_to_DMR-DCC_2017.pdf

On 3/20/19 3:18 PM, Dennis Shelton wrote:

I am in a similar situation. Where do I find guidance on DMR?

On 3/20/2019 4:11 PM, Michael McEwen wrote:
OK...I want get into DMR.  What is the best online primer?


--
Jeff N0̷MII

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Check out the 4SQRP website at 4sqrp.com


Guidance on DMR - getting started

Jeff Logullo N0̸MII
 

KE0FHS really puts a lot of time and effort in writing his stuff:


If and when you are thinking about DMR hotspots, his sections on hotspots and pi-star are also extremely valuable:


As you start reading, don't get discouraged. Eventually it will all start to make sense :-) 

Also: if you're interested in DMR, be sure to join the DigitalFM@4SQRP.groups.io sub-group. That's the best place to ask DMR-related questions that may go longer than a quick reply or two.

Jeff N0̸MII 

On Mar 20, 2019, at 3:21 PM, John Lonigro <jonigro@...> wrote:

Mike, N0SO, pointed this site out to me.  It should help a little.

http://www.modigitalgroup.org/images/Introduction_to_DMR-DCC_2017.pdf

On 3/20/19 3:18 PM, Dennis Shelton wrote:

I am in a similar situation. Where do I find guidance on DMR?

On 3/20/2019 4:11 PM, Michael McEwen wrote:
OK...I want get into DMR.  What is the best online primer?


--
Jeff N0̷MII


Re: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

John Lonigro
 

Mike, N0SO, pointed this site out to me.  It should help a little.

http://www.modigitalgroup.org/images/Introduction_to_DMR-DCC_2017.pdf

72,
John, AA0VE


On 3/20/19 3:18 PM, Dennis Shelton wrote:

I am in a similar situation. Where do I find guidance on DMR?

Is AnyTone a decent rig?

On 3/20/2019 4:11 PM, Michael McEwen wrote:
OK...I want get into DMR.  What is the best online primer?


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Paul AI4EE
 

I am in a similar situation. Where do I find guidance on DMR?

Is AnyTone a decent rig?

On 3/20/2019 4:11 PM, Michael McEwen wrote:
OK...I want get into DMR.  What is the best online primer?


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Michael McEwen
 

OK...I want get into DMR.  What is the best online primer?


Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 20 March 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

View Event


FS Capacitors

George H. Gates
 

Large assortment of caps. Picture available. 25.00 + 10.00 shipping.


Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Nick Kennedy <kennnick@...>
 

Back in the 70's, owners of less expensive banjos would talk of upgrading with a Stewart-MacDonald tone ring. Never did it to my RB100 though.  

Excuse the digression - couldn't resist.

Nick, WA5BDU

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:40 AM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
Another source of interesting and unique tools is <https://www.stewmac.com/>. They are a Luthier supplier for the most part but they have some unique and useful tools on their site.

Tim N9PUZ



Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Tim N9PUZ
 

Another source of interesting and unique tools is <https://www.stewmac.com/>. They are a Luthier supplier for the most part but they have some unique and useful tools on their site.

Tim N9PUZ


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:26 AM Dave Benson <davek1swl@...> wrote:
Mouser used to sell them- not sure if they still do.

  If there's a choice of sizes, the 6mm tool is the one most of us need. (The 4mm size is intended for the 2.5mm jacks.)

73 -Dave

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:51 PM Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:
They're currently out of stock, but I believe a Wiha 30517 is a better deal with a nice handle on it.

Jim, W0EB

On Mar 19, 2019, at 3:00 PM, WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:

While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

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-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Last day for Ozarkcon registration

Walter - K5EST
 

GM All, yes Ozarkcon is getting close.....very close!

This is the last day to register so you can join us at Branson, Missouri! Using PayPal and our webpage can have you registered.

Great session speakers, first year offering Ozarkcon University, prize drawings Saturday, Wacky Key contest, Homebrew Projects contest, WQ5RP on the air, and Dummy Load QSOs at the hotel. 

For an easy Dummy Load Antenna, this is fun and we have been doing the Dummy Load QSO at the hotels since 2007! See WA0ITP's webpage:

The Ocon weekend is busy and fun. See ya there!

73,
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention




Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Dave Benson
 

Mouser used to sell them- not sure if they still do.

  If there's a choice of sizes, the 6mm tool is the one most of us need. (The 4mm size is intended for the 2.5mm jacks.)

73 -Dave


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:51 PM Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:
They're currently out of stock, but I believe a Wiha 30517 is a better deal with a nice handle on it.

Jim, W0EB

On Mar 19, 2019, at 3:00 PM, WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:

While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

<aeggmmcjoccplokf.png>
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 20 March 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

View Event


Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Jim Sheldon
 

They're currently out of stock, but I believe a Wiha 30517 is a better deal with a nice handle on it.

Jim, W0EB

On Mar 19, 2019, at 3:00 PM, WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:

While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

<aeggmmcjoccplokf.png>
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Mike D
 

You can also get replacement hexagonal nuts from Control:

https://www.ctrl-mod.com/collections/diy/products/hex-nuts-bag-of-50

Mike kd5rjz 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 3:00 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@... wrote:
While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

WA0ITP
 

While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Gary E. Kohtala
 

You will also find PSK31 at times on or near 7035 USB dial, just below the WSPR sliver. I have made many excellent contacts there.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK



Sent from BlueMail

On Mar 17, 2019, at 18:11, KB9BVN - <kb9bvn@...> wrote:
40m PSK is on 7070

20m PSK is on 14070

Not sure about the rest


On 3/17/2019 5:50 PM, Jim Parks wrote:

Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try
that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well
mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000
FT* contacts so far.

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

*From:* main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*David Speltz
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
*To:* main@4SQRP.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the
Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However,
I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust
characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard
talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will
be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is
so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ



On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...
<mailto:jim.ny0j@...>> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50
years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the
typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo
in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again.
Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal”
antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece
of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio
equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise
I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak
CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard
these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I
downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14
months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and
have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35
DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the
“conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept
one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how
broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag
chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is
that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might
just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new
tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

*From:*main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io><main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io>>*On Behalf Of*Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
*Sent:*Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
*To:*main@4sqrp.groups.io <mailto:main@4sqrp.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly
attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking
time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult
to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I
use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that
don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that
do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes
personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in
perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode.
Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


Sent fromBlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=14562>

On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...
<mailto:dwbrayton@...>> wrote:

Gary,

Do you not understand humor?

GetTypeApp for Android<http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=14554>

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <
yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>@groups.io
target=_blank>gary.k7ek=<mailto:gary.k7ek=>yahoo.com
<http://yahoo.com/>@groups.io> wrote:<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Frank,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does
not know what he is talking about.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be
at the computer to initiate contacts<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

and to respond according to what the other station sends.
There is nothing automatic about it.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make
the job a lot easier but the op<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

must still be there throughout the contact. If you would
like to really become knowledgeable about<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently
afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8
gets<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

attacked. That is sad, indeed.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Best regards,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Gary, K7EK<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>






Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 20 March 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

View Event


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Brian Crittendon
 

Most of the time you need a SSB radio. 

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 3:27:44 PM EDT, Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:


Dear All,

    I have not played with digital much (at all really).

    Do they work the same as CW or SSB? Basically can you work Digital
Modes on a CW only transceiver or do you need SSB?

    I have tried to find an answer online but really did not find what
I was looking for.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II
Training Oficer -
Birch Tree Volunteer Fire and Rescue
Member of Missouri Region G HazMat Team

On 3/18/2019 11:58 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
> Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
> don't remember exactly how long they can be.
>
> tim ab0wr
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
> "John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:
>
>> I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
>> radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
>> an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
>> just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
>> square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
>> robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
>> of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
>> JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
>> making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
>> having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
>> different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
>> regard.
>>
>> On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
>> years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
>> put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
>> 4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
>> frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
>> and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
>> think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.
>>
>> 72,
>> John, AA0VE
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Don, W9EBK
 

A voice transmitter is required.  Usually SSB, although FM will work if allowed. I can't think of any digital mode you can use on a cw only transmitter,  other than CW. 
The good news is your CW receive would work if you want to give receiving a try.  Just feed the audio into a computer mic jack and run free software like FLdigi.

Don, W9EBK 

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 2:27 PM Jeff Collins <w7grv@... wrote:
Dear All,

     I have not played with digital much (at all really).

     Do they work the same as CW or SSB? Basically can you work Digital
Modes on a CW only transceiver or do you need SSB?

     I have tried to find an answer online but really did not find what
I was looking for.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II
Training Oficer -
Birch Tree Volunteer Fire and Rescue
Member of Missouri Region G HazMat Team

On 3/18/2019 11:58 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
> Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
> don't remember exactly how long they can be.
>
> tim ab0wr
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
> "John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:
>
>> I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
>> radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
>> an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
>> just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
>> square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
>> robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
>> of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
>> JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
>> making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
>> having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
>> different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
>> regard.
>>
>> On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
>> years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
>> put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
>> 4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
>> frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
>> and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
>> think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.
>>
>> 72,
>> John, AA0VE
>>
>>
>>
>
>




Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Jeff Collins
 

Dear All,

    I have not played with digital much (at all really).

    Do they work the same as CW or SSB? Basically can you work Digital Modes on a CW only transceiver or do you need SSB?

    I have tried to find an answer online but really did not find what I was looking for.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II
Training Oficer -
Birch Tree Volunteer Fire and Rescue
Member of Missouri Region G HazMat Team

On 3/18/2019 11:58 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
don't remember exactly how long they can be.

tim ab0wr

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
"John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:

I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
regard.

On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.

72,
John, AA0VE