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Re: RTTY in days of old

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Pretty Neat Terry
Pam heard me playing the video and wanted to know if it was a sewing machine!!
I said no,  it it runs just as smooth!
 72 
Johnny AC0BQ

"More smiles per Watt!"
Sent from my iPad

On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "WA0ITP" <wa0itp@...> wrote:

 

Great sound from the past   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwIhZwmHe2w 
 
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72   WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: RTTY in days of old

Jim Sheldon
 

Back in the late 70's when I was stationed in Augsburg, Germany, I owned a Model 28 ASR, almost like the one in the video, but mine was colored light grey.  Mine had the speed change transmission in it so I could operate 60, 75 or 100 wpm just by moving a lever inside the case.  I built a digital ID unit for it that coupled to the "Here- Is" key and would also respond to the RTTY Signal WRU (Who Are You) and output DE DA1GS (my call over there at the time).  Dieter, DJ8KI bought it off me when I left Germany in 1979 and I reprogrammed the ID unit with his call.  Didn't want to spend the extra money to have it shipped home.
 
Wife was glad I didn't ship it -- too noisy.  Had several Kleinschmidt units at various times after I got back, and finally with the advent of the old Radio Shack TRS-80 and Color Computers, I finally ditched the "rattle-bangers" and that helped keep peace in the family.  Now that she has her ticket, she said she kinda misses the old machines.
 
I just completed a deal with a fellow QRP'er on the east coast for a TONO EXL-5000E self contained unit that does RTTY, ASCII, AMTOR and CW.  It will run on AC or 13.8 DC and has a built in 5" video monitor.  This is the unit all the DXpeditions used to use because of it's ability to run off battery.  Original cost on these was around $900 but I picked this one up in working condition for under $100 shipped.  Now all I have to do is find the service manual on it so I can fix it if it ever breaks.  
 
It does have X-Y outputs for a tuning scope, comes with a keyboard for transmit and will actually do commercial SITOR as well as both FEC and ARQ Amtor.  Not too many guys run ARQ any more though as I haven't heard it in the RTTY portion of 20 for a year or two now.  According to all the reviews though, the box copies RTTY extremely well and supposedly if you can hear the signal it will decode and display it.  There is a Centronics parallel printer port on it so you can get hardcopy if you want to, but except for a traffic net, or copying RTTY pictures that would really be a waste of paper due to the built in video display (it also has an output so you can use a bigger video monitor if you like).
 
According to FedEx tracking, it'll get here the day after Christmas.  I have a PDF file of the user's manual so I've got all my cables made up and it will connect directly to the K3.  It can run AFSK or direct FSK for transmit and the K3 has a direct FSK input.  That makes it nice because when the signal is tuned for receive, the transmitted signal will be right on frequency and the logging program will log the MARK frequency as it should.
 
Jim - W0EB

> Great sound from the past 
>
> ----------------------------------
> Back to the
> bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
> I love this radio stuff
> !
> 72  WA0ITP
 


Re: RTTY in days of old

Dale Putnam
 

Wow! That was a trip. 
In the dim past... well, maybe not so dim now, I used to run to the teletype machine, to grab the latest weather forecast,
to append to the end of the newscast, on the local radio station, before I laid another "golden oldie" on for the huge audience. (never knew for sure how many, but I didn't have any trouble at all giving away records or prizes.)
I'd scoot to the tty machine, grab the wx, run to the kitchen grab a cup of coffee, and slip back onto the standup stool, and that was all done in less than 60 sec. (one break).. Trips to the bathroom were reserved for songs. (they lasted about 3 minutes) 
  The sound of the tty machine was never to go over the air... (manager's decision).. if it did, that meant the door to the tty closet, (and it was just a closet), didn't get closed correctly.. You could NOT slam it in haste.. that would automatically cause the phone to ring, manager calling...   "Don't slam the tele door!"  
  
  I also had a nice arrangement of TTy machines in my ham shack too... models 14, 15, 19, 28, 32, 33, and others... 
I finally had to let them all go... the cost of oil ... and all that. ;-)

Thanks Terry, there is no other sound like that.. many try... many fail. 

does anyone ever get all the oil out from under the fingernails?

Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 



To: 4sqrp@...
From: wa0itp@...
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 11:45:52 -0600
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] RTTY in days of old

 

Great sound from the past   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwIhZwmHe2w 
 
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72   WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: RTTY in days of old

WA0ITP
 

Great sound from the past   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwIhZwmHe2w 
 
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72   WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Yeah Rick,
Best answer yet, keep that pay pal card warmed up!!!
Happy Holidays!
Johnny AC0BQ

"More smiles per Watt!"
Sent from my iPad

On Dec 21, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Rick Bennett <kc0pet@...> wrote:

 

Or you could buy one of each :-)

Rick

From: "Phil Anderson" <aldenmcduffie@...>
To: "wayne dillon" <wayne.dillon@...>
Cc: 4sqrp@...
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:40:33 AM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

 

Thanks Tim, Rick, Tom, Chuck, and Wayne....

I'll look up each on the web and choose one. They all sound good. All I want is
to be able to adjust CW speed with a knob and run my Bengalli (got at Dayton
last year) into it.

72 and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Unc Phil, W0XI  (Lawrence; which is near Lebo, Columbus and St Paul, KS)



Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Rick Bennett
 

Or you could buy one of each :-)

Rick


From: "Phil Anderson" To: "wayne dillon"
Cc: 4sqrp@...
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:40:33 AM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

 

Thanks Tim, Rick, Tom, Chuck, and Wayne....

I'll look up each on the web and choose one. They all sound good. All I want is
to be able to adjust CW speed with a knob and run my Bengalli (got at Dayton
last year) into it.

72 and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Unc Phil, W0XI  (Lawrence; which is near Lebo, Columbus and St Paul, KS)



Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Ge Phil
It's in stock, and it might make it for Christmas!!
72
Johnny 

"More smiles per Watt!"
Sent from my iPad

On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Phil Anderson <aldenmcduffie@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Terry,

That method of upping or downing the speed in 2 wpm steps
sounds easy and quick. Think I'll go for that one if it is still
in stock. Will check that out today.

unc Phil

WA0ITP wrote:



Gotta put in a vote for the EZKeyer myself. It vy easy to use with
lots of easy
to use features, and changind speede is as easy asy with a pot I
think. Hold
the programming key and tap the dot or dash paddles for up or down in
2 wpm
incrrements, easy peasy. It also is very easy to "paddlize" (izzat a
word?).
Sending with it is very very smooth. http://www.4sqrp.com/ek2.php

There are indeed many good keyers out there, and ours is one of the
best imo. I
also have a CMOS II that sits on the shelf.
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Sevart" <tmsevart@...>
To: <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

| On 12/19/2013 17:42, Phil Anderson wrote:
| > Hey Youall,
| >
| > What good keyer models are out there that are reasonable $ value;
can be
| > kit or done,
| > which allows the op to adjust code speed with a pot, perhaps
weight too and
| > sidetone volume and tone.......
|
| I personally like the PK-4 keyer chip from Jackson Harbor Press. It's
| the keyer chip which has the exact same pinout as the old Norcal keyer
| chip.
|
| http://wb9kzy.com/pk4ssr.htm
|
| I have just bought the chips in the past and used parts from my junk box
| to make a complete key er board, and since the chip is just an 8 pin IC
| you can build it on a board small enough to fit into just about any QRP
| radio. It has the speed setting using the paddles and memory button,
| but you can also hook up a pot to have instant speed control.
|
| If you don't want to roll your own, complete kits are available.
|
| --
| Tom Sevart N2UHC
| St. Paul, KS
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| 4SQRP Website: http://4sqrp.com
| OzarkCon is coming April 4-5, 2014 in Branson, MO
| View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.phpYahoo Groups Links
|
|
|


New Magic Box Run.

WA0ITP
 

Four State is pleased to announce a new run of K8IQY's Magic Box. It provides
seamless transceiving using separate transmitters and receivers, is extrememly
user friendly, fully automatic, and completely silent in operation. It
completely protects your receiver and is compatible with any receiver or
transmitter up to 10 watts in power.

Please go here for more information and to place your order.
http://www.4sqrp.com/MagicBox.php

Thank you for supporting the Four State QRP Group. All proceeds go to
supporting our annual conference OzarkCon.
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: Saturday Meeting Canceled

Daniel Mullen
 

Dave,
  We're hoping it doesn't get that bad, but it's best to be cautious with winter weather.
  I still haven't made a contact with the 20 meter Tuna Tin 2.  Maybe this weekend will be good.  I'm sure it works OK so it's a matter of operator skill and conditions.
  Hope everyone stays safe and warm!
  73 es Merry Christmas 
  Daniel KD0SZS

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 20, 2013, at 13:47, David Bixler <qrp@...> wrote:

 

Hi gang:

In light of the nasty weather (freezing rain) expected tonight and
tomorrow, we will cancel the 4SQRP Saturday luncheon gathering. No point
in endangering anyone on slick roads.

See you in January!

73, Dave W0CH (Who is keeping warm by the wood stove)


Saturday Meeting Canceled

David Bixler <qrp@...>
 

Hi gang:

In light of the nasty weather (freezing rain) expected tonight and tomorrow, we will cancel the 4SQRP Saturday luncheon gathering. No point in endangering anyone on slick roads.

See you in January!


73, Dave W0CH (Who is keeping warm by the wood stove)


FS K8IQY MagicBox

Bill VanKirk
 

I have a MagicBox that I don't use and would like to pass it on to someone who needs one.

I built it about a year ago. I can provide pictures etc. off the list.

I will ship for $45 or trade for QRP stuff! :-)

Please contact me off list.

73
Bill
W0PT


Creating columns in emails

WA0ITP
 

I've had some questions about email columns so I revived the effort to make 'em
look better.
You may have noticed that the columns in my net reports were ok, but they were
double spaced. The culprit was an invisible line feed at the end of each line
which was placed there by the email program. The cure is to delete it on each
line before sending the email. The whole procedure is here.
http://www.wa0itp.com/colrep2.pdf Its been a pesky little thing to overcome.

Hope this helps those who would like to make nice looking columns in an email.
Comments and improvements are appreciated.

----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Phil Anderson
 

Thanks Terry,

That method of upping or downing the speed in 2 wpm steps
sounds easy and quick. Think I'll go for that one if it is still
in stock. Will check that out today.

unc Phil

WA0ITP wrote:



Gotta put in a vote for the EZKeyer myself. It vy easy to use with
lots of easy
to use features, and changind speede is as easy asy with a pot I
think. Hold
the programming key and tap the dot or dash paddles for up or down in
2 wpm
incrrements, easy peasy. It also is very easy to "paddlize" (izzat a
word?).
Sending with it is very very smooth. http://www.4sqrp.com/ek2.php

There are indeed many good keyers out there, and ours is one of the
best imo. I
also have a CMOS II that sits on the shelf.
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Sevart"
To: <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

| On 12/19/2013 17:42, Phil Anderson wrote:
| > Hey Youall,
| >
| > What good keyer models are out there that are reasonable $ value;
can be
| > kit or done,
| > which allows the op to adjust code speed with a pot, perhaps
weight too and
| > sidetone volume and tone.......
|
| I personally like the PK-4 keyer chip from Jackson Harbor Press. It's
| the keyer chip which has the exact same pinout as the old Norcal keyer
| chip.
|
| http://wb9kzy.com/pk4ssr.htm
|
| I have just bought the chips in the past and used parts from my junk box
| to make a complete key er board, and since the chip is just an 8 pin IC
| you can build it on a board small enough to fit into just about any QRP
| radio. It has the speed setting using the paddles and memory button,
| but you can also hook up a pot to have instant speed control.
|
| If you don't want to roll your own, complete kits are available.
|
| --
| Tom Sevart N2UHC
| St. Paul, KS
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| 4SQRP Website: http://4sqrp.com
| OzarkCon is coming April 4-5, 2014 in Branson, MO
| View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.phpYahoo Groups Links
|
|
|


Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

WA0ITP
 

Gotta put in a vote for the EZKeyer myself. It vy easy to use with lots of easy
to use features, and changind speede is as easy asy with a pot I think. Hold
the programming key and tap the dot or dash paddles for up or down in 2 wpm
incrrements, easy peasy. It also is very easy to "paddlize" (izzat a word?).
Sending with it is very very smooth. http://www.4sqrp.com/ek2.php

There are indeed many good keyers out there, and ours is one of the best imo. I
also have a CMOS II that sits on the shelf.
----------------------------------
Back to the bench, Winter's too valuable to waste.
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA0ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Sevart" <tmsevart@gmail.com>
To: <4sqrp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?


| On 12/19/2013 17:42, Phil Anderson wrote:
| > Hey Youall,
| >
| > What good keyer models are out there that are reasonable $ value; can be
| > kit or done,
| > which allows the op to adjust code speed with a pot, perhaps weight too and
| > sidetone volume and tone.......
|
| I personally like the PK-4 keyer chip from Jackson Harbor Press. It's
| the keyer chip which has the exact same pinout as the old Norcal keyer
| chip.
|
| http://wb9kzy.com/pk4ssr.htm
|
| I have just bought the chips in the past and used parts from my junk box
| to make a complete keyer board, and since the chip is just an 8 pin IC
| you can build it on a board small enough to fit into just about any QRP
| radio. It has the speed setting using the paddles and memory button,
| but you can also hook up a pot to have instant speed control.
|
| If you don't want to roll your own, complete kits are available.
|
| --
| Tom Sevart N2UHC
| St. Paul, KS
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| 4SQRP Website: http://4sqrp.com
| OzarkCon is coming April 4-5, 2014 in Branson, MO
| View Details at http://www.ozarkcon.com/index.phpYahoo Groups Links
|
|
|


Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Phil Anderson
 

Thanks Tim, Rick, Tom, Chuck, and Wayne....

I'll look up each on the web and choose one. They all sound good. All I want is
to be able to adjust CW speed with a knob and run my Bengalli (got at Dayton
last year) into it.

72 and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Unc Phil, W0XI  (Lawrence; which is near Lebo, Columbus and St Paul, KS)


Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Wayne Dillon
 

Hi Unc,
Well I gotta vote for the ones I've used so...
the 4sqrp ez keyer, like it a lot, then (equal first) is K1EL's K12 and it's most recent incarnation the K14 (I have both of them). K1EL's keyers have all the facilities you could need, but, if you don't need 'em just operate it at a basic keyer, it does just fine.
There ya go, my $0.02 worth.
God Bless de Wayne - KC0PMH


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Phil Anderson <aldenmcduffie@...> wrote:
 

Hey Youall,

What good keyer models are out there that are reasonable $ value; can be kit or done,
which allows the op to adjust code speed with a pot, perhaps weight too and
sidetone volume and tone.......

Why? I've found one feature of my digital FT450D that I do not like.....likely in many
other digital (that is memory and menu....) rigs rather than the old friendly
analog knobs and pots for such things!

It's hard to adjust code speed while in a QSO since the memory and setting
for cw speed and any other cw parms has to be entered in with a number of
key strokes....ugh!!!!!!! Wishing for the ole days....

Unc Phil. By the way, who has that first RX of mine now? T'was 1953, age 13.
It was a Collins RX1?; can't remember the name of the RX rig right now but its sound was sweet!
It was loaned to me from my Elmer, W0AR, Lee of KCDX and LoudenBoomer amp fame,

Unc Phil, W0XI, Lawrence (which is near Lebo or Columbus, KS :) )




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Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Chuck Carpenter
 

I agree with Tom on the Jackson Harbor Keyer chips and kits.

I've used most of them starting with the PK-3 and now use the PK-4 in two keyers, home station and protable versions.

The NorCal chip is a nice basic Keyer

http://wb9kzy.com/norcal.htm

There was also the OzarkCon version of the NorCal with a feature variation but I don't see it listed now.




Both have pot speed control.


Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

Tom Sevart
 

On 12/19/2013 17:42, Phil Anderson wrote:
Hey Youall,

What good keyer models are out there that are reasonable $ value; can be
kit or done,
which allows the op to adjust code speed with a pot, perhaps weight too and
sidetone volume and tone.......
I personally like the PK-4 keyer chip from Jackson Harbor Press. It's the keyer chip which has the exact same pinout as the old Norcal keyer chip.

http://wb9kzy.com/pk4ssr.htm

I have just bought the chips in the past and used parts from my junk box to make a complete keyer board, and since the chip is just an 8 pin IC you can build it on a board small enough to fit into just about any QRP radio. It has the speed setting using the paddles and memory button, but you can also hook up a pot to have instant speed control.

If you don't want to roll your own, complete kits are available.

--
Tom Sevart N2UHC
St. Paul, KS


Re: 40M Morning Net

w2sh@...
 

Chuck, I am rarely QRV during daylight hours and after the sun has been up for close to an hour the three lowest HF bands (ex 60m) where I usually operate with 5W get very noisy and with a shorter skip distance.

You note your 40m activity occurring at 1200 UTC, or 0600 CT, yet your sunrise today was at 0721 CT.

On 10 April 2014 your sunrise will be at at 1200 UTC and that will be 0700 CDT.

Or am I confused?

Charles, W2SH



To: 4sqrp@...; w2sh@...; 4sqrp@...
From: w5usj@...
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:56:27 -0600
Subject: RE: [4sqrp] 40M Morning Net

 
Charles,

I'm not sure I understand what you meant by the comment below?

At 09:48 AM 12/19/2013, Charles Moizeau wrote:
>Moreover, with now-increasing daylight early morning QSOs on 1,000
>mile or further circuits won't be possible on 40m.

For several years, since I discovered them, I've checked into the
1200 UTC daily Water Way CW net on 7047 (used to be 7050). Although
there are those bad propagation days, most of the time I have no
problem from here in NE TX with stations all along the east coast
from Maine to Key West. Some of the close in stations are more often
hard to copy than those farther out.

Also there is one station on the island of Roatan off the coast of
Honduras who checks in regularly.

So, I'm confused?

Chuck Carpenter, W5USJ
EM22cv, Rains Co. TX



Re: SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST KEYER?

George H. Gates
 

The Picokeyer is great. I have built about 20 of them. Like to add one to every QRP kit I build. I have a stand alone one just in case I need it. Has pot to adjust speed. You can change speed while sending. 72 Geo/W2BPI
 

In a message dated 12/19/2013 18:42:52 Eastern Standard Time, aldenmcduffie@... writes:
 

Hey Youall,

What good keyer models are out there that are reasonable $ value; can be kit or done,
which allows the op to adjust code speed with a pot, perhaps weight too and
sidetone volume and tone.......

Why? I've found one feature of my digital FT450D that I do not like.....likely in many
other digital (that is memory and menu....) rigs rather than the old friendly
analog knobs and pots for such things!

It's hard to adjust code speed while in a QSO since the memory and setting
for cw speed and any other cw parms has to be entered in with a number of
key strokes....ugh!!!!!!! Wishing for the ole days....

Unc Phil. By the way, who has that first RX of mine now? T'was 1953, age 13.
It was a Collins RX1?; can't remember the name of the RX rig right now but its sound was sweet!
It was loaned to me from my Elmer, W0AR, Lee of KCDX and LoudenBoomer amp fame,

Unc Phil, W0XI, Lawrence (which is near Lebo or Columbus, KS :) )