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Re: Fire In The Wire

Dr. Skip Amis
 

I found this and it sure makes sense to me - hope it is of help to you


NorCal Doublet Antenna By Doug Hendricks, KI6DS The NorCal Doublet Antenna came about due to my desire for a simple antenna that could be erected very fast, only needed one center support, and did not take up much
www.norcalqrp.org
blessings to all - Skip

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From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of Jim Long <jphiliplong@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 7:57 AM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Fire In The Wire
 
I am intrigued by the Norcal doublet.    Upon some cursory looking, I do not see 50 foot lengths of ribbon cable.  How about Ethernet cable?  Would it be strong enough to be suspended?  Are the individual wires insulated or bare?

Jim WW9H

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:02 AM John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
Josh

You can build out a kit of antennas using common connectors and interchangable components like Lego

Dipole
Vertical
End Fed
Short antennas

These antennas can be rapidly deployed for field use based on terrain

You can use  a Buddipole as a dipole with wires by using the center insulator only

You can use a Packtennas different ways

Even Chameleon can be your friend (check out their user guides)

The fastest antenna to deploy is the SuperAntenna

So many antennas so little time. Or just throw up a random wire and use a tuner

Or spend $2 and make a NorCal Doublet
John VE3IPS

On Sat., Mar. 14, 2020, 18:44 Gwen Patton, <ardrhi@...> wrote:
It's interesting that you mention W3EDP antennas, Joshua. I have one as my main wire on my home station right now. I love the design, and it seems to work really well for me. I haven't used one portable, though. Should work about the same, I would think. I ran a half-sized one a couple of years ago, as an expedient over the winter when my OCFD came down in a storm, and it worked, just not nearly as well as I'd like. I also have a quarter-size one I used indoors as a test antenna on my bench. Again, it worked, but not super well because of the size and location.

I have the Elecraft AX/AXE portable antenna, but I haven't really had a chance to test it out yet. Maybe this week, if the weather is nice, I'll take it out in the backyard and give it a try. I also have a nifty antenna I bought from a guy on Etsy. He calls it a "SlinkTenna". It's the old standard Slinky antenna, except he uses the junior sized Slinkies, and builds the whole thing in a very well thought out PVC enclosure. It's at https://www.etsy.com/listing/671341314/slinktenna-80m-6m-helical-dipole-hf-ham -- I recommend the optional support kit.

Ok, I'll be quiet now. ;)

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Joshua Wood <WoodJRx@...> wrote:
Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ



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Re: Fire In The Wire

Jim Long
 

I am intrigued by the Norcal doublet.    Upon some cursory looking, I do not see 50 foot lengths of ribbon cable.  How about Ethernet cable?  Would it be strong enough to be suspended?  Are the individual wires insulated or bare?

Jim WW9H

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:02 AM John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
Josh

You can build out a kit of antennas using common connectors and interchangable components like Lego

Dipole
Vertical
End Fed
Short antennas

These antennas can be rapidly deployed for field use based on terrain

You can use  a Buddipole as a dipole with wires by using the center insulator only

You can use a Packtennas different ways

Even Chameleon can be your friend (check out their user guides)

The fastest antenna to deploy is the SuperAntenna

So many antennas so little time. Or just throw up a random wire and use a tuner

Or spend $2 and make a NorCal Doublet
John VE3IPS

On Sat., Mar. 14, 2020, 18:44 Gwen Patton, <ardrhi@...> wrote:
It's interesting that you mention W3EDP antennas, Joshua. I have one as my main wire on my home station right now. I love the design, and it seems to work really well for me. I haven't used one portable, though. Should work about the same, I would think. I ran a half-sized one a couple of years ago, as an expedient over the winter when my OCFD came down in a storm, and it worked, just not nearly as well as I'd like. I also have a quarter-size one I used indoors as a test antenna on my bench. Again, it worked, but not super well because of the size and location.

I have the Elecraft AX/AXE portable antenna, but I haven't really had a chance to test it out yet. Maybe this week, if the weather is nice, I'll take it out in the backyard and give it a try. I also have a nifty antenna I bought from a guy on Etsy. He calls it a "SlinkTenna". It's the old standard Slinky antenna, except he uses the junior sized Slinkies, and builds the whole thing in a very well thought out PVC enclosure. It's at https://www.etsy.com/listing/671341314/slinktenna-80m-6m-helical-dipole-hf-ham -- I recommend the optional support kit.

Ok, I'll be quiet now. ;)

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Joshua Wood <WoodJRx@...> wrote:
Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ



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Re: Fire In The Wire

John
 

Josh

You can build out a kit of antennas using common connectors and interchangable components like Lego

Dipole
Vertical
End Fed
Short antennas

These antennas can be rapidly deployed for field use based on terrain

You can use  a Buddipole as a dipole with wires by using the center insulator only

You can use a Packtennas different ways

Even Chameleon can be your friend (check out their user guides)

The fastest antenna to deploy is the SuperAntenna

So many antennas so little time. Or just throw up a random wire and use a tuner

Or spend $2 and make a NorCal Doublet
John VE3IPS

On Sat., Mar. 14, 2020, 18:44 Gwen Patton, <ardrhi@...> wrote:
It's interesting that you mention W3EDP antennas, Joshua. I have one as my main wire on my home station right now. I love the design, and it seems to work really well for me. I haven't used one portable, though. Should work about the same, I would think. I ran a half-sized one a couple of years ago, as an expedient over the winter when my OCFD came down in a storm, and it worked, just not nearly as well as I'd like. I also have a quarter-size one I used indoors as a test antenna on my bench. Again, it worked, but not super well because of the size and location.

I have the Elecraft AX/AXE portable antenna, but I haven't really had a chance to test it out yet. Maybe this week, if the weather is nice, I'll take it out in the backyard and give it a try. I also have a nifty antenna I bought from a guy on Etsy. He calls it a "SlinkTenna". It's the old standard Slinky antenna, except he uses the junior sized Slinkies, and builds the whole thing in a very well thought out PVC enclosure. It's at https://www.etsy.com/listing/671341314/slinktenna-80m-6m-helical-dipole-hf-ham -- I recommend the optional support kit.

Ok, I'll be quiet now. ;)

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Joshua Wood <WoodJRx@...> wrote:
Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ



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Re: Fire In The Wire

Gwen Patton
 

It's interesting that you mention W3EDP antennas, Joshua. I have one as my main wire on my home station right now. I love the design, and it seems to work really well for me. I haven't used one portable, though. Should work about the same, I would think. I ran a half-sized one a couple of years ago, as an expedient over the winter when my OCFD came down in a storm, and it worked, just not nearly as well as I'd like. I also have a quarter-size one I used indoors as a test antenna on my bench. Again, it worked, but not super well because of the size and location.

I have the Elecraft AX/AXE portable antenna, but I haven't really had a chance to test it out yet. Maybe this week, if the weather is nice, I'll take it out in the backyard and give it a try. I also have a nifty antenna I bought from a guy on Etsy. He calls it a "SlinkTenna". It's the old standard Slinky antenna, except he uses the junior sized Slinkies, and builds the whole thing in a very well thought out PVC enclosure. It's at https://www.etsy.com/listing/671341314/slinktenna-80m-6m-helical-dipole-hf-ham -- I recommend the optional support kit.

Ok, I'll be quiet now. ;)

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Joshua Wood <WoodJRx@...> wrote:
Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ



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Re: Fire In The Wire

David Wilcox K8WPE
 

Josh,

While not an expert in my 60 years of ham radio I find that 5 watts even with a good antenna is iffy depending on the bands, the gray line, etc.  I am down in Florida in a 3rd floor condo with a large balcony and even FT8 is iffy at times compared with my G5RV at home.   My plan for next year is to run at least 25 watts and use my Buddipole and/Buddistick along with my mag loop.  I left it home this year depending on a QRPGuys 3 band vertical hanging down from our balcony but too much metal in the concrete and stucco siding and a mag loop.  I really need to get my equipment down on the beach as antennas need to be discreet in our rented condo.

Make sure to have some form of an antenna analyzer when you set up any of your antennas.  Every little bit of power out is helpful.  I prefer a YouKits analyzer as it works and is easy to use.  Nothing fancy but it tells me SWR and impedance. Works well tuning the Buddistick and pole, and mag loop.

The Super Antenna MP1 is also a good portable antenna but your PAC 12 is good also.  I have used both.

So 25 watts at least, best antenna you can put up, and an analyzer for tuning.  Have fun.

Dave K8WPE



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On Mar 14, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Joshua Wood <WoodJRx@...> wrote:


Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ


Re: Fire In The Wire

W0EAX
 

Josh
Have you checked out the Buddistick or Buddipole ? The Buddipole works very well

Ron   W0EAX


On Mar 14, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Joshua Wood <WoodJRx@...> wrote:


Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ


Re: Fire In The Wire

w9ran <w9ran@...>
 

On 3/14/2020 2:32 PM, Joshua Wood wrote:
any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)
Well I didn't believe it when a mil radio buddy who does a lot of portable operation first told me, but after giving it a try I am a firm believer that it's very hard to beat a 31 ft. telescoping fiberglass Jackite (kite) pole with a wire run up the center, a small autotuner like an SGC-235, and three or four 30 ft. long counterpoise wires.   There are many ways to hold it up including a drive-over base and the kind of "quad pod" used for highway signs, or light paracord guy wires.   Mine fastens to the back of my RV and I can have it up and be on the air in 5 minutes.   With a little ingenuity a mount can be figured-out for any kind of operation and some radios with built-in tuners will match it directly.

Vertical real estate is usually easier to find than horizontal, and no natural or manmade supports are needed so you can set up on pavement, bare rock, or any surface.   The antenna is a quarter wave on 40 and easily tunes to the higher bands and as low as 80 meters, and signal reports are consistently "as good as your home station".    Jackite poles collapse down to 46 inches and even have a place to wind up the antenna wire for storage.  Tie a big fishing sinker on each counterpoise wire and attach them with alligator clips so when (not "if") you trip over them they won't kill you.    The best part is the 31 ft pole will cost about $80 and the rest is just wire and hardware store parts (conduit hangers fit perfectly).

So many hams have used them for antennas that Jackite has added an "antennas" page to their website: https://www.jackite.com/antenna

By they way some have used them as permanent antennas - just wrap a few turns of electrical tape above each joint so it can't work loose with temperature cycling.

73, Bob W9RAN


Re: Fire In The Wire

John
 

Jim

Where do we find back issues of the builders group newsletter?

My favourite antenna is the Pactenna Linked dipole

John ve3ips

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 4:10 PM n5ib_2 <n5ib@...> wrote:
I'll share a little article I wrote for our club newsletter a few years ago
PDF attached .... if I did it right  :^))

Jim, N5IB



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Re: Fire In The Wire

Gwen Patton
 

I made a simple linked dipole for 40/30/20 that deploys easily and mostly doesn't need any additional tuning. I have it set to the CW portion of the bands, so if I'm up on the top end of the phone portion of 40 or 20 it might stand to be tuned a bit, but it'll get along without it. You just tune it when you build it for the parts of the bands you want to operate on, and then it's just set it up and operate.

I made it out of 24 gauge silicone-insulated stranded hookup wire. A bit of scrap plastic became the feedpoint, and I used 2" wood dowels with holes drilled through them at the ends between the segments on the legs. Some simple spade-type connectors make it easy to link up the segments, and they're easy enough to disconnect when you want to change bands, but when connected they have good, solid connections that don't affect tuning.

There's tons of sources for link dipole calculations, and plenty of sites that detail a link dipole's construction. Mine is wound up on a pair of simple plastic winders to keep it from getting snarled. The coax is the RG-174 thin stuff, with a pre-soldered BNC connector. I got a few of 'em from SOTABeams the last time I ordered from them, but you can get premade coax cables of just about any type. Or you can make your own cable if you've got the bits and pieces. I've got the crimp-on connectors and tools for RG-8X, but not the thin stuff, so I bought the cable pre-made. I didn't use a connector at the feedpoint, because I first built it with a 1:1 balun at the feed, but I couldn't get it to tune so I took out the balun and just soldered the wire and the braid to the legs and left it at that. Tuned perfectly after that. Here's the site I used to design mine. The only caveat I have is that I didn't use the 3d printed bits because when I built it I didn't have a 3d printer. If I were building it today, I'd go that route, since I have one now.  http://www.oe8hsr.at/blog/?page_id=345

I use a cheap 7.2m telescoping fiberglass mast to erect the antenna. I either set it up freestanding with guy lines, or I use a drive-on mast mount and park my van on it. The endpoints either stake into the ground, or I anchor them with photographers' sandbags I carry for such purposes.

If I don't use the link dipole, I may use an end-fed with a simple tuner built in for the same bands from SOTABeams, or my Wolf River Coils vertical. The vertical works REALLY well, but it's best to have an antenna analyzer with you to tune it more easily. You can work around it if you don't have an analyzer, but it's a pain. 

73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 4:16 PM Johnny Matlock <jomatlock@...> wrote:
Ge Jim
Very nice article.
Thanks for sharing.
72
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:10 PM n5ib_2 <n5ib@...> wrote:
I'll share a little article I wrote for our club newsletter a few years ago
PDF attached .... if I did it right  :^))

Jim, N5IB



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Re: Fire In The Wire

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Ge Jim
Very nice article.
Thanks for sharing.
72
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:10 PM n5ib_2 <n5ib@...> wrote:
I'll share a little article I wrote for our club newsletter a few years ago
PDF attached .... if I did it right  :^))

Jim, N5IB



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Re: Fire In The Wire

Jim, N5IB
 

I'll share a little article I wrote for our club newsletter a few years ago
PDF attached .... if I did it right :^))

Jim, N5IB


Re: Group discussion

Jim Manley
 

At least you can't transmit a human virus via RF ... yet?  All sorts of scary bio stuff can now be done using bathroom facilities and simple lab equipment, with the blueprints transferable digitally.  That's how the CDC, etc., were able to so quickly identify and image the coronavirus, and map/share the genome.  I doubt over D4D though ... 

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Lame Deer High School Amateur Radio Club  KJ7JKU


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:42 AM J.K. Wright <wrightjk@...> wrote:
Let's hope coronavirus does not become ubiquitous to ham radio.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 1:19 PM davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:

Around 5 years ago, we where having discussions about Raspberry Pi and Arduino, and the moderator shut down the conversation because he didn't think is was appropriate for the group, and directed everyone to take those discussions to groups for those devices.

Now those devices are ubiquitous in the Amateur Radio Hobby.


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Fire In The Wire

Joshua Wood
 

Spring is right around the corner, so i'm looking at my current portable antenna options.  Does anyone have any advice on easily deployable portable antennas?  I've had minimal luck with my homebrew EFHWs using a 49:1, and my 9:1 not-so-random wires usually seem deaf.  The NorCal Doublet I made works okay, but is finicky to deploy, and fragile (ribbon cable isn't meant for 40ft runs, apparently).  I made two KE4PT End-Fed OCFD, and loved their form factor - but not their results.  My PAC-12 has had some decent results, but is finicky to tune.  My homemade Mag Loop (using the chameleon kit) has nice sharp tuning and good receive, but i've struggled making contacts with it.  I've had mixed results with a number of QRPGuys kits, as well.

I know it seems like a silly question, but- does anyone have any advice for a portable (i.e. small packed size) multi-band HF antenna (40-30-20-15)?  A club member has loaned me one of their W3EDP, but weather and family obligations haven't been conducive to testing it yet.  I figured now is the time to build new antennas to test this spring / summer!

~Josh
W0ODJ


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

W9QS
 

Same thing just happened here.  What a great place.

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 2:15 PM, Mike Heitmann <n0so@...> wrote:

I just got a cancellation call from them as well.

Mike, N0SO

On Mar 14, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown63301@...> wrote:


I was pleasantly surprised this morning when Stone Castle called me to check if I wanted to cancel my reservation. 
Tom W0MFQ 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:12 PM W9QS via Groups.Io <mbroga=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Must of just hit a couple of bad times.  Thanks for all the responses.  I will get it done on Monday.

72

Mike, W9QS


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On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:10 AM, jrdock@... <jrdock@...> wrote:

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


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On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



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Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Mike, N0SO
 

I just got a cancellation call from them as well.

Mike, N0SO

On Mar 14, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown63301@...> wrote:


I was pleasantly surprised this morning when Stone Castle called me to check if I wanted to cancel my reservation. 
Tom W0MFQ 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:12 PM W9QS via Groups.Io <mbroga=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Must of just hit a couple of bad times.  Thanks for all the responses.  I will get it done on Monday.

72

Mike, W9QS


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:10 AM, jrdock@... <jrdock@...> wrote:

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


Pro

Jack R. Dock ... How about we give GOD a reason to continue blessing America?  In defense of America I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
"A veteran is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life."
                                                 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
From: "W9QS via Groups.Io" <mbroga@...>
To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

davemrtn
 

That really speaks to the integrity of the management there.


David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
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Psalms 111:10
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Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

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On 3/14/2020 1:16 PM, Tom Brown wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised this morning when Stone Castle called me to check if I wanted to cancel my reservation. 
Tom W0MFQ 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:12 PM W9QS via Groups.Io <mbroga=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Must of just hit a couple of bad times.  Thanks for all the responses.  I will get it done on Monday.

72

Mike, W9QS


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On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:10 AM, jrdock@... <jrdock@...> wrote:

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


Pro

Jack R. Dock ... How about we give GOD a reason to continue blessing America?  In defense of America I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
"A veteran is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life."
                                                 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
From: "W9QS via Groups.Io" <mbroga@...>
To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: Learning CW. (Was: The Friendly Group)

Tim N9PUZ
 

Jeff --

You might download the student guide and using their tools and practice material. Probably not as effective as the having the live class but it could be the thing that makes it all "click" for you. I also supplemented my class study with the K7QO code course which is a collection of audio files for your computer, phone, etc.

Tim N9PUZ

On 3/14/2020 1:07 PM, Jeff Collins wrote:
Dear Tim,

    My Internet connection will not support that class right now. I can barely watch a YT Video.

    But we might be moving soon with better Internet. Our house has been sold and we have made an offer on a new place.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Tom Brown
 

I was pleasantly surprised this morning when Stone Castle called me to check if I wanted to cancel my reservation. 
Tom W0MFQ 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:12 PM W9QS via Groups.Io <mbroga=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Must of just hit a couple of bad times.  Thanks for all the responses.  I will get it done on Monday.

72

Mike, W9QS


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:10 AM, jrdock@... <jrdock@...> wrote:

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


Pro

Jack R. Dock ... How about we give GOD a reason to continue blessing America?  In defense of America I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
"A veteran is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life."
                                                 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
From: "W9QS via Groups.Io" <mbroga@...>
To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: The Friendly Group

Jeff Collins
 

Dear Tim,

    My Internet connection will not support that class right now. I can barely watch a YT Video.

    But we might be moving soon with better Internet. Our house has been sold and we have made an offer on a new place.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II

On 3/14/2020 12:48 PM, Tim N9PUZ wrote:
On 3/14/2020 11:18 AM, Jeff Collins wrote:
Thhheeennnn....going to attempt to learn Code again (like for the 4th time). Not sure if I will ever learn code. But I will give it another 6 months before throwing in the towel again for awhile.

    Once I get past 4 or 5 letters they just blend together no matter what speed I try to learn at
Jeff --

The Spring sessions of the (free) CWOps instructor led courses begin in April. I've taken both their introductory and beginner courses and found them to very useful. You still have to be willing to put in the effort but they have a format that works. The instructor from my first class posted a message on Facebook this morning that there are still openings.

CW Academy https://cwops.org/

Tim N9PUZ



Re: The Friendly Group

Bob Parr
 

I took the Beginner class this last time and it was a really good method, but you have to put in about an hour a day.  more it better.
 
Bob

> On 3/14/2020 11:18 AM, Jeff Collins wrote:
>> Thhheeennnn....going to attempt to learn Code again (like for the
>> 4th
>> time). Not sure if I will ever learn code. But I will give it
>> another
>> 6 months before throwing in the towel again for awhile.
>>
>>   Once I get past 4 or 5 letters they just blend together no
>> matter
>> what speed I try to learn at
>>
>
> Jeff --
>
> The Spring sessions of the (free) CWOps instructor led courses
> begin in
> April. I've taken both their introductory and beginner courses and
> found
> them to very useful. You still have to be willing to put in the
> effort
> but they have a format that works. The instructor from my first
> class
> posted a message on Facebook this morning that there are still
> openings.
>
> CW Academy https://cwops.org/
>
> Tim N9PUZ
>
>
>

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