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Re: Change email URL

chukroastem36 <davemrtn@...>
 

Sorry, there was some QRM in the room at the time.....

Last sentence should read - "This will help direct you to the correct person when help is needed."

--- In 4sqrp@..., David Martin <davemrtn@...> wrote:

David,
Issues or questions related to the 'e-mail reflector' should be sent to
AE5K.

To all, please notice the "Contact Us" button on the 4sqrp web page.
this will help the correct person when help is needed.


On 02/17/2013 01:47 PM, Djwilcox01@... wrote:
When I registered I forgot to use my yahoo email account. I errantly
gave you my personal email URL. Now I am getting all the 4SQRP emails
in my personal account.
I use Djwilcox01@yahoo <mailto:Djwilcox01@yahoo> for all my ham radio
stuff, so would you please delete the Djwilcox01@...
<mailto:Djwilcox01@...> and add the yahoo URL.
Thank you.
*David J. Wilcox, D.O.
K8WPE
3196 Zimmerman Road
Traverse City, Michigan 49685
Grid Square EN74
QRP ARCI #5413
GQRP #02502*

--
*David Martin - K5DCM ---o0o---
Mountain Home, Arkansas*
Guns don't kill people, any more than spoons & forks cause obesity.


What is the difference between a fisherman and a QRPp-Operator?

Hajo Dezelski <dl1sdz@...>
 

None, they both need patience ;-)

I just assembled the Hendricks 41 dB Attenuator and made some remarks:


The reason, I tried to join your nets, but I had no chance. So there was no reason to stay with that famous 5 Watt. I decided to pull that power down and hopefully you will hear me now in QRPp ;-)

72 de
Hajo

---
... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn
... http://hajos-kontrapunkte.blogspot.com/


Battery Day!

Steve
 

Everyone knows it's President's Day, but did you know it's also Battery Day?

Today is Alessandro Volta's birthday. He was born on this day in 1745 and is credited with the first electrochemical battery for producing DC back in 1800. The 'Voltaic Pile' was a battery consisting of alternating disks of silver and zinc separated by cardboard soaked in sulfuric acid. The invention led to moving away from 'static' electricity which had dominated electrical research for decades. Much of the chemical research of the 19th century was for the improvement of battery technology, especially after the invention of the telegraph which depended on it.

The term "battery" was coined by Benjamin Franklin about 50 years before the voltaic pile when he likened a group of Leyden Jars (early capacitors) to a 'battery' of cannons.

73 de Steve WA0PWK


Re: Battery Day!

David Martin <davemrtn@...>
 


Re: Battery Day!

Phil Anderson
 


Hey Guys! You're right; history repeats itself.
 
Saying it another way, it's REVOLT...ing.  Heeeeeee. Would that make it regen'in too? :)
 
Uncle Phil

Today is Alessandro Volta's birthday. He was born on this day in 1745 and is credited with the first electrochemical battery for producing DC back in 1800. The 'Voltaic Pile' was a battery consisting..............


4SQRP Kit Development

Joe Bento
 

I'm curious...

For those involved in the 4SQRP kit development, what do you use for your schematic capture and PC board CAD program? I'm investigating Eagle and DipTrace currently, and am decideding I'm partial to Eagle. Many people claim that DipTrace's interface is more intuitive, but I'm not finding it that way. Also, it seems that Eagle has better library support for parts. The downside is Eagle is quite a bit more expensive to purchase.

Joe, N6DGY


Re: Battery Day!

Joe Bento
 

Phil,

Our friends in the UK seem to like the term 'battery' better. Although 'piles' is understood in Britain, one must be specific to call it a Voltaic Pile otherwise the conversation gets a mite uncomfortable. :-)

Joe, N6DGY


Re: Battery Day!

Phil Anderson
 

Way to go Joe,

Hope "Cutie" shows up with you at Dayton. See ya there. Assume our booth will be in about the same place.

Uncle Phil
xtal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Bento" <n6dgy@...>
To: <4sqrp@...>; "Phil Anderson" <aldenmcduffie@...>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] Battery Day!


Phil,

Our friends in the UK seem to like the term 'battery' better. Although 'piles' is understood in Britain, one must be specific to call it a Voltaic Pile otherwise the conversation gets a mite uncomfortable. :-)

Joe, N6DGY



Group and my email

Don Jackson
 

Hi all...

A good share of the old reflector has migrated here, still a few more every day now. Some decided that they disliked Yahoo so much as to not join us and that is their decision -- sorry to not have them here. I'm sure that we culled out a lot of dead wood in this process too -- some were not even receiving email messages from the reflector (had their mail delivery turned off), a few had duplicate addresses no longer needed, and some didn't have enough interest to migrate.

Before I forget it, if anyone tried sending me email the past two days (up to near noon CST today), in changing web hosts, they managed to screw up my email routing and I lost all for a day or so. If you expected a reply but didn't get it, please resend. It has been a very busy and tiring past few days for the whole changeover, but everything seems to be working now on 4 reflectors and my email accounts. Time to relax a few minutes.

Don AE5K


Re: Group and my email

Dale Putnam
 

TIme for a long deep sigh... and a little longer time for a soft seat, ... and a bit longer yet for a stiff drink.

Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 

 

To: 4sqrp@...
From: donj@...
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:41:57 -0600
Subject: [4sqrp] Group and my email

 
Hi all...

A good share of the old reflector has migrated here, still a few more
every day now. Some decided that they disliked Yahoo so much as to not
join us and that is their decision -- sorry to not have them here. I'm
sure that we culled out a lot of dead wood in this process too -- some
were not even receiving email messages from the reflector (had their
mail delivery turned off), a few had duplicate addresses no longer
needed, and some didn't have enough interest to migrate.

Before I forget it, if anyone tried sending me email the past two days
(up to near noon CST today), in changing web hosts, they managed to
screw up my email routing and I lost all for a day or so. If you
expected a reply but didn't get it, please resend. It has been a very
busy and tiring past few days for the whole changeover, but everything
seems to be working now on 4 reflectors and my email accounts. Time to
relax a few minutes.

Don AE5K


Re: Group and my email

davidgeorgerichards
 

Thanks for all the work Don. I rarely post here, but do enjoy reading the posts to this group. I guess you could categorize me as "dormant wood" instead of "dead wood" :-)

Dave
AA7EE

--- In 4sqrp@..., Don AE5K <donj@...> wrote:
I'm
sure that we culled out a lot of dead wood in this process too -- some
were not even receiving email messages from the reflector (had their
mail delivery turned off), a few had duplicate addresses no longer
needed, and some didn't have enough interest to migrate.

Don AE5K


IARU Region 2 Seeks Input on HF Band Plan

Cliff Fox (KU4GW)
 

<font color="#000000"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4">The
ARRL is seeking input to proposed band plan changes in the upcoming IARU
convention in Mexico. Everyone needs to read the proposed changes, and
voice any support or opposition as you see fit. The proposals can be
seen here: </font></font></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan&#92;
"><font color="#9136ad"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font
size="4"><u>http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban&#92;
d-plan</u></font></font></font></a><font color="#000000"> </font><font
color="#000000"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4">ITU Region
2 hams, especially CW and digital mode operators better be for
submitting any comments quickly to oppose putting our 40 meter bandplan
in step with either ITU region 1 or 3! There is a March 1st deadline for
submitting comments! I have already submitted mine in opposition. Submit
them ASAP to bandplan2013@... Other member nations of ITU Region 2
can get the contact info for their ITU go to person at
</font></font></font><a href="http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/"><font
color="#9136ad"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font
size="4"><u>http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/</u></font></font></font></&#92;
a><font color="#000000"> </font><font color="#000000"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4">There is one change that
concerns me deeply. Currently, 40M narrow band modes are used from 7,000
KHz to 7,125 KHz. The proposal is to cut this down to a 40 KHz section
from 7,000 KHz to 7,040 KHz. Please get involved by voicing your
opinion! Please share this information with all your amateur radio
friends ASAP! Very 73 de KU4GW</font></font></font>


IARU Region 2 Seeks Input on HF Band Plan (W/O HTML Coding)

Chuck Carpenter
 

Cleaned up the message a little to help readabiltiy...

At 07:18 AM 2/19/2013, you wrote:

TheARRL is seeking input to proposed band plan changes in the upcoming IARU
convention in Mexico. Everyone needs to read the proposed changes, and
voice any support or opposition as you see fit. The proposals can be
seen here:
"http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan&#92;"
ITU Region2 hams, especially CW and digital mode operators better be for
submitting any comments quickly to oppose putting our 40 meter bandplan
in step with either ITU region 1 or 3! There is a March 1st deadline for
submitting comments! I have already submitted mine in opposition. Submit
them ASAP to bandplan2013@... Other member nations of ITU Region 2
can get the contact info for their ITU go to person at
"http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/"
There is one change that concerns me deeply.
Currently, 40M narrow band modes are used from 7,000
kHz to 7,125 kHz. The proposal is to cut this down to a 40 KHz section
from 7,000 kHz to 7,040 kHz. Please get involved by voicing your
opinion! Please share this information with all your amateur radio
friends ASAP! Very 73 de KU4GW

Chuck Carpenter, W5USJ
EM22cv, Rains Co. TX


Re: IARU Region 2 Seeks Input on HF Band Plan

Don Jackson
 

On 02/19/2013 07:18 AM, KU4GW Cliff wrote:

The
ARRL is seeking input to proposed band plan changes in the upcoming IARU
convention in Mexico. Everyone needs to read the proposed changes, and
voice any support or opposition as you see fit. The proposals can be
seen here: http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan&#92;
<http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>">size="4">http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban&#92;
d-plan <http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>color="#000000">ITU Region
2 hams, especially CW and digital mode operators better be for
submitting any comments quickly to oppose putting our 40 meter bandplan
in step with either ITU region 1 or 3! There is a March 1st deadline for
submitting comments! I have already submitted mine in opposition. Submit
them ASAP to bandplan2013@... <mailto:bandplan2013%40arrl.org> Other member nations of ITU Region 2
can get the contact info for their ITU go to person at
http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/">color="#9136ad">size="4">http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/</&#92;
a>face="Arial, sans-serif">There is one change that
concerns me deeply. Currently, 40M narrow band modes are used from 7,000
KHz to 7,125 KHz. The proposal is to cut this down to a 40 KHz section
from 7,000 KHz to 7,040 KHz. Please get involved by voicing your
opinion! Please share this information with all your amateur radio
friends ASAP! Very 73 de KU4GW

Hi Cliff,

Just what are your reasons for objection to the proposed band plan?

Don AE5K


Re: IARU Region 2 Seeks Input on HF Band Plan

Scotty Long <nu0s@...>
 

I put my two cents in for what it's worth in a brief e mail. I have lost faith in the government doing the right thing.

Scotty/NU0S

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Don AE5K wrote:

 

On 02/19/2013 07:18 AM, KU4GW Cliff wrote:
>
> The
> ARRL is seeking input to proposed band plan changes in the upcoming IARU
> convention in Mexico. Everyone needs to read the proposed changes, and
> voice any support or opposition as you see fit. The proposals can be
> seen here:
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan\
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-planhttp://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban\
> d-plan
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>color="#000000">ITU
> Region
> 2 hams, especially CW and digital mode operators better be for
> submitting any comments quickly to oppose putting our 40 meter bandplan
> in step with either ITU region 1 or 3! There is a March 1st deadline for
> submitting comments! I have already submitted mine in opposition. Submit
> them ASAP to bandplan2013@...
> Other member nations of ITU Region 2
> can get the contact info for their ITU go to person at
> http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/">color="#9136ad">size="4">http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/ > a>face="Arial, sans-serif">There is one change that
> concerns me deeply. Currently, 40M narrow band modes are used from 7,000
> KHz to 7,125 KHz. The proposal is to cut this down to a 40 KHz section
> from 7,000 KHz to 7,040 KHz. Please get involved by voicing your
> opinion! Please share this information with all your amateur radio
> friends ASAP! Very 73 de KU4GW
>
>

Hi Cliff,

Just what are your reasons for objection to the proposed band plan?

Don AE5K


Re: IARU Region 2 Seeks Input on HF Band Plan

Don Jackson
 

What government? No government involved on this.

On 02/19/2013 09:23 AM, Scotty Long wrote:

I put my two cents in for what it's worth in a brief e mail. I have lost faith in the government doing the right thing.

Scotty/NU0S

/Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/


Don AE5K <donj@...> wrote:

On 02/19/2013 07:18 AM, KU4GW Cliff wrote:

The
ARRL is seeking input to proposed band plan changes in the upcoming IARU
convention in Mexico. Everyone needs to read the proposed changes, and
voice any support or opposition as you see fit. The proposals can be
seen here:
http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan&#92;
<http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-planhttp://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban&#92;
<http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban>> d-plan
http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>color="#000000">ITU
Region
2 hams, especially CW and digital mode operators better be for
submitting any comments quickly to oppose putting our 40 meter bandplan
in step with either ITU region 1 or 3! There is a March 1st deadline for
submitting comments! I have already submitted mine in opposition. Submit
them ASAP to bandplan2013@... <mailto:bandplan2013%40arrl.org>
Other member nations of ITU Region 2
can get the contact info for their ITU go to person at
http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/">color="#9136ad">size="4">http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/</&#92;
a>face="Arial, sans-serif">There is one change that
concerns me deeply. Currently, 40M narrow band modes are used from 7,000
KHz to 7,125 KHz. The proposal is to cut this down to a 40 KHz section
from 7,000 KHz to 7,040 KHz. Please get involved by voicing your
opinion! Please share this information with all your amateur radio
friends ASAP! Very 73 de KU4GW

Hi Cliff,

Just what are your reasons for objection to the proposed band plan?

Don AE5K


Re: IARU Region 2 Seeks Input on HF Band Plan

Scotty Long <nu0s@...>
 

Insert (Organization, entity) what ever works HI...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Don AE5K wrote:

 

What government? No government involved on this.

On 02/19/2013 09:23 AM, Scotty Long wrote:
>
> I put my two cents in for what it's worth in a brief e mail. I have
> lost faith in the government doing the right thing.
>
> Scotty/NU0S
>
> /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/
>
>
> Don AE5K donj@...> wrote:
>
> On 02/19/2013 07:18 AM, KU4GW Cliff wrote:
> >
> > The
> > ARRL is seeking input to proposed band plan changes in the upcoming IARU
> > convention in Mexico. Everyone needs to read the proposed changes, and
> > voice any support or opposition as you see fit. The proposals can be
> > seen here:
> > http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan\
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>>
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-planhttp://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban\
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-ban>> d-plan
> >
> http://www.arrl.org/news/iaru-region-2-seeks-input-on-hf-band-plan>color="#000000">ITU
>
> > Region
> > 2 hams, especially CW and digital mode operators better be for
> > submitting any comments quickly to oppose putting our 40 meter bandplan
> > in step with either ITU region 1 or 3! There is a March 1st deadline for
> > submitting comments! I have already submitted mine in opposition. Submit
> > them ASAP to bandplan2013@...
> > Other member nations of ITU Region 2
> > can get the contact info for their ITU go to person at
> >
> http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/">color="#9136ad">size="4">http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/ > > a>face="Arial, sans-serif">There is one change that
> > concerns me deeply. Currently, 40M narrow band modes are used from 7,000
> > KHz to 7,125 KHz. The proposal is to cut this down to a 40 KHz section
> > from 7,000 KHz to 7,040 KHz. Please get involved by voicing your
> > opinion! Please share this information with all your amateur radio
> > friends ASAP! Very 73 de KU4GW
> >
> >
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> Just what are your reasons for objection to the proposed band plan?
>
> Don AE5K
>
>


IARU Bandplan Comments to ARRL

WA0ITP
 

I responded earlier this morning after seeing a note on the Flying Pigs
reflector. My comments are here
http://www.wa0itp.com/IARU%20Bandplan%20Comments%20to%20ARRL.rtf pse feel free
to use any of them in your response.

If we dont speak up, 40M will look like 80M, i.e. almost no room for CW.

----------------------------------
I love this radio stuff !
72 WA�ITP
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
www.qrpspots.com


Re: Battery Day!

jonwells88
 

Steve,

There's a very interesting museum dedicated to Volta in Como, Italy - on the shore of the lake. You can see many of the materials he used in his experiments and information about his life. Since there aren't many visitors to this museum, the staff have plenty of time to answer questions and are very helpful. I posted a few photos in the Group photos section.

Jon, K6DAT

--- In 4sqrp@..., "Steve" <wa0pwk@...> wrote:

Everyone knows it's President's Day, but did you know it's also Battery Day?

Today is Alessandro Volta's birthday. He was born on this day in 1745 and is credited with the first electrochemical battery for producing DC back in 1800. The 'Voltaic Pile' was a battery consisting of alternating disks of silver and zinc separated by cardboard soaked in sulfuric acid. The invention led to moving away from 'static' electricity which had dominated electrical research for decades. Much of the chemical research of the 19th century was for the improvement of battery technology, especially after the invention of the telegraph which depended on it.

The term "battery" was coined by Benjamin Franklin about 50 years before the voltaic pile when he likened a group of Leyden Jars (early capacitors) to a 'battery' of cannons.

73 de Steve WA0PWK


Re: IARU Bandplan Comments to ARRL

Don Jackson
 

On 02/19/2013 09:45 AM, WA0ITP wrote:

I responded earlier this morning after seeing a note on the Flying Pigs
reflector. My comments are here
http://www.wa0itp.com/IARU%20Bandplan%20Comments%20to%20ARRL.rtf pse feel free
to use any of them in your response.

If we dont speak up, 40M will look like 80M, i.e. almost no room for CW.
Hi Terry and the rest following this,

First off, Terry, be very careful in quoting the FCC rule on minimum power as it can (and has been) interpreted two ways (by QRO ops) and used against us.

� 97.313 Transmitter power standards. (a) An amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.

So if you are running 5 watts on CW and the receiving station cannot quite hear you, this rule REQUIRES you to "up" your power. It REQUIRES you "must use minimum power necessary", so if you are using too little (less than "minimum"), you are in violation of 97.313(a).

Before everyone jumps on me for this, I agree that it was not the intent, but the way it is worded, well, what can I say? And if you don't get it, I'm saying the above with tongue in cheek.

Also before many on this list get up tight about this proposal, remember that the IARU is a volunteer organization, non-governmental, that is a cooperative between hams in 3 different areas of the world. As has been pointed out, some countries (for example, Panama) has no federal regulations as to use of modes in ham bands, i.e., no provision for phone bands, cw, etc. In our country, the FCC rules restrict us, but NOT the band plans do not. There has been only one instance that I am aware of where the FCC has used our voluntary band plan in an enforcement procedure, and that involved deliberate interference.

I am NOT at all defending the proposed band plan under consideration. However, I don't see it much different than practice today. Note the use of the words "ALL MODES" on 40 meters below 7125. Maybe I'm wrong, but I interpret that as accepting CW as legitimate on any frequency below 7125. And in case you didn't think about it, CW is not the only QRP mode! I ran less than 5 watts on PSK31 for years, including on our 80 meter Wednesday night net.

I am also in agreement with you Terry on the FCC actions (NOT band plans) expanding the phone bands over the years. It was not band plans or the IARU that caused this -- it was the vocal majority of hams who operate phone QRO and give ham radio a bad rap especially on 75 meters.

One thing all of us should remember, this is just a proposal, subject to change. However, if you don't like it, you are wasting your bits and bytes just saying "I don't like it" and the reason why. To be effective in your comments submitted you need to tell them what you would change and how it should be changed. The comment period is not a poll or vote, but a chance to shape the proposal the way you'd like it.

Nice idea about QRP "window" and comparing with DX window. But where would you propose it be put? That's important to a committee to have something more concrete, that way they can concentrate of where to put this window rather than to have one in the plan.

As one of the guys on the QRP-L list says, "back in my hole"...

73, Don AE5K