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Re: tonights net

John - KK4ITX
 

I’m getting frustrated up here in Maine, the noise level is high on 40m at night 80m was quieter but still didn’t hear anything on 3564....... other signals coming through from somewhere, didn’t bother to hang around for their Calls.

This Campground is really noisy, especially at night.  Probably have to get back to Florida in September before I can check in again....... but I’ll keep trying !!!

73,

John
KK4ITX 

If you need a parachute and don't have one you probably won't need one again.

On Jul 10, 2019, at 21:46, Paul Smith <n0nbd@...> wrote:

I turned on the net freq and found Johnny AC0BQ he was 549 here as I have 10 over noise tonight. Good to make it in de Paul N0NBD

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tonights net

Paul Smith
 

I turned on the net freq and found Johnny AC0BQ he was 549 here as I have 10 over noise tonight. Good to make it in de Paul N0NBD

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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 #cal-notice

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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 10 July 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm DST central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS is WQ5RP Terry.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central DST Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

Upcoming Event: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When: Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 8:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:40 and 80 Meters

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Organizer: jomatlock@...

Description: The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm DST central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS is WQ5RP Terry.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central DST Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Neil Goldstein
 

https://longislandcwclub.org/

I'm a member, and know the founders Rich and Howard quite well.  I recommend the club to everyone. Their methods are great and they have interesting online activities. They hosted a buildathon last month which was both in-person and online, starring me on the Zoom chat (at least my hands and voice). Members from all over the world!

W2NDG, radiokitguide.com

Sent from my VIC20 - Neil Goldstein

Upcoming Event: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When: Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 8:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:40 and 80 Meters

View Event

Organizer: jomatlock@...

Description: The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm DST central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS is to be announced.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central DST Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

Re: Cryptographic signatures

 

* On 2019 09 Jul 12:36 -0500, Tommy Gober wrote:
Unless money is changing hands, why bother with signatures?
Most of the emails sent are just yak and opinions. If I don't like it or
care, I delete. If someone's going to the trouble of spoofing an email from
you, emailing erroneous opinions to the email list is probably not their
target.
Hi Tommy.

Those of us who remember MS-DOS and other early systems can recall not
needing a username or password to simply use our computer. It was a bit
perturbing to have to do that when I first started learning Linux almost
23 years ago. Eventually Microsoft made user accounts a part of their
systems and now it is second nature. Likewise, the use of SSL on the
WWW via the HTTPS protocol started out as a means to protect financial
transactions and now browsers may complain if a site doesn't use SSL.
The world is gravitating toward a greater use of cryptography even for
trivial things.

Here I'm not even advocating for the use of encryption, just signatures.
I agree that most of our communication is of little interest outside of
the QRP segment of the amateur radio hobby, but those who wish to play
on and against our good will couldn't care less.

If you're making a deal with someone to buy/sell things, then it might be
worth considering.
For moderately priced items (dollar amounts I'd be really sad to completely
lose), I'll want a phone call or check that your email is the same one I'm
sending money to via PayPal (and that you've used that address for some
time).
I understand your point. I want to be sure that others know and can be
reasonably certain via a signature check that it's really me offering
some item for sale or offering to purchase some item. Beyond that, I
want the same for all my electronic communications, trivial or not,
because it is no fun when people believe something was sent when it was
really due to a spoof. After that happened to me once, I chose to nip
in the bud rather than hope it wouldn't happen again on a larger scale.
I am active on quite a number of mailing lists and would like to avoid
any loss of good will that may exist. My mail program made it
reasonably easy to set up automatically signing my mail, so I do so.

I am disappointed that the powers that be of groups.io have chosen to
break this very basic way a lot of us that use email extensively to
protect ourselves from spoofing. As I may have noted earlier, there are
at least two lists I subscribe to that reject signed mail. This is
unfortunate and so I mostly just read them and do not participate as
much. Regardless, so long as the various lists on groups.io don't
reject my signed mail outright, I will continue to send signed mail.

72/73, Nate

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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Thomas Martin
 

Just as a side note on learning CW the long island radio club runs classes on line for those that want learn code or increase speed. They use Zoom video conferencing on line to present the classes.
I am sorry I don’t have the website but with google it should be easy.
These are a nice group and will work with new learners and big boosters of CW.

Tom
K0amd

On Jul 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Charles W. Powell via Groups.Io <doctorcwp=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Jeff,

I think it’s always worth asking how you are trying to learn CW? Using a program? Which one? What is the character speed and effective speed? While there may be folks who *can’t* learn Morse code, I’m in the corner of those who believe that almost anyone *can* learn it, when correctly taught.

Can you expound a bit on where you are going with Morse? You may be going too fast/too slow or some other obstacle.

You are absolutely right about QRP and SSB, at least with band conditions the way they are. I will say though that one of my very few SSB contacts, back in 2012 when the bands were a lot better, I made a contact with 5 watts to Arizona (from Kansas) and the fellow at the other end simply would not believe I was running 5 watts. But in 2012 the bands were not in the absolute depths of the propagation cesspool.

I did see in the later responses that there are folks who participate in some QRP voice nets.

72,

Chas - NK8O



On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:11 AM, Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:

Dear All,

Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has some kind of brain blockage that is not allowing us to learn CW (have attempted to learn in more than one way)?

In CW I am up to 3 letters and hour...but it is the same 3 letters over and over. :)

On the flip side I am going to try and listen on on the CW nets...just because.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II





Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Michael McEwen
 

Tnx for the info on the ssb net.  I'll check it out for listening...building an ssb txmtr kit.


On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 16:04 Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I like SSB QRP radios for PSK 31 and other modes while the sun spots are on vacation. 
Mark/WQ8S

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 04:03:59 PM EDT, Lee Hiers <lee.hiers@...> wrote:


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:11 AM Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:

>      Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has
> some kind of brain blockage that is not allowing us to learn CW (have
> attempted to learn in more than one way)?


NOGAQRP has a SSB net every Thursday night on 3975.5 KHz from 2030 to
2100 EDT (0030-0100Z).

73 de Lee, AA4GA



Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Brian Crittendon
 

I like SSB QRP radios for PSK 31 and other modes while the sun spots are on vacation. 
Mark/WQ8S

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 04:03:59 PM EDT, Lee Hiers <lee.hiers@...> wrote:


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:11 AM Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:

>      Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has
> some kind of brain blockage that is not allowing us to learn CW (have
> attempted to learn in more than one way)?


NOGAQRP has a SSB net every Thursday night on 3975.5 KHz from 2030 to
2100 EDT (0030-0100Z).

73 de Lee, AA4GA



FOXHUNT: Fox hunt Thursday 11 July N9EP/WX2S

Dale Putnam
 



 
Hi folks-just a heads up that our next hunt is this Thursday 11 July (local date) 0100-0230 July 12 UTC.
I’ll be one of your foxii, the other will be Steve WX2S in NJ.

This first-time fox will be hanging out somewhere between 14050-14070 KHz.  You will hear the "standard exchange": (substitute appropriate RST)

<your call> xx9 IL ED 5W <your call>

I will be giving "true" RST reports, so be sure to listen closely.
i will be sending at 20 WPM to try and accommodate as many folks as possible.  Feel free to call me at any (reasonable) speed.  I start to fade at about 40 WPM.

I will operate split to start, listening up 1 to 1.5 KHz.  I will indicate that I'm listening split by sending "UP".  After the calls thin out, I may go to simplex, listen closely for the "UP", if you don't hear it call me simplex. 
You can probably improve your odds when working simplex if you don't zero-beat me.

Hope to hear you all and pass out a lot of pelts!
73
Ed N9EP
_

Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Lee Hiers
 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:11 AM Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:

Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has
some kind of brain blockage that is not allowing us to learn CW (have
attempted to learn in more than one way)?

NOGAQRP has a SSB net every Thursday night on 3975.5 KHz from 2030 to
2100 EDT (0030-0100Z).

73 de Lee, AA4GA

Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Charles W. Powell
 

Jeff,

I think it’s always worth asking how you are trying to learn CW? Using a program? Which one? What is the character speed and effective speed? While there may be folks who *can’t* learn Morse code, I’m in the corner of those who believe that almost anyone *can* learn it, when correctly taught.

Can you expound a bit on where you are going with Morse? You may be going too fast/too slow or some other obstacle.

You are absolutely right about QRP and SSB, at least with band conditions the way they are. I will say though that one of my very few SSB contacts, back in 2012 when the bands were a lot better, I made a contact with 5 watts to Arizona (from Kansas) and the fellow at the other end simply would not believe I was running 5 watts. But in 2012 the bands were not in the absolute depths of the propagation cesspool.

I did see in the later responses that there are folks who participate in some QRP voice nets.

72,

Chas - NK8O

On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:11 AM, Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:

Dear All,

Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has some kind of brain blockage that is not allowing us to learn CW (have attempted to learn in more than one way)?

In CW I am up to 3 letters and hour...but it is the same 3 letters over and over. :)

On the flip side I am going to try and listen on on the CW nets...just because.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II



Re: Cryptographic signatures

Tommy Gober
 

Unless money is changing hands, why bother with signatures?
Most of the emails sent are just yak and opinions. If I don't like it or care, I delete. If someone's going to the trouble of spoofing an email from you, emailing erroneous opinions to the email list is probably not their target.

If you're making a deal with someone to buy/sell things, then it might be worth considering.
For moderately priced items (dollar amounts I'd be really sad to completely lose), I'll want a phone call or check that your email is the same one I'm sending money to via PayPal (and that you've used that address for some time).


On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM Nate Bargmann <n0nb@...> wrote:
I just got a bounce that the other topic was locked.  I'd like to
recommend the use of cryptographic signatures as a means to be
reasonably assured of the sender's legitimacy.

The recent thread is all the more reason to use tools such as
cryptographic signatures where possible, IMO.  Unfortunately, some
amateur radio mailing lists block signed messages and I must send
messages to those lists in the clear (all of the Linux related lists I
subscribe to accept signed messages).  Now, a cryptographic signature
does not prevent someone from spoofing my email address, but if it's a
direct mail from me and it's not signed like this one is, then the
recipient can be assured that it wasn't from me.                                                                   

The spoofing of email addresses is a problem but it doesn't necessarily
mean that an account was cracked.  However, when using a cryptographic
signature, the spoof is easily identified as the spoofer should not have
access to the private key used to sign the email nor should he know the
password to unlock the private key for signing.  An email client program
will check the signed message against the public key which is often
available from a public key server and verify the signature.

72, Nate

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possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true."

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Re: Upcoming Event: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

keith ford
 

 To familiar with DST 

On Monday, July 8, 2019, 20:00, main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@4SQRP.groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When: Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 8:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:40 and 80 Meters

View Event

Organizer: jomatlock@...

Description: The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm DST central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS is to be announced.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central DST Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

Upcoming Event: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When: Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 8:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:40 and 80 Meters

View Event

Organizer: jomatlock@...

Description: The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm DST central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS is to be announced.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central DST Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

Re: Cryptographic signatures

 

As I understand it now, Groups.io munges the email body by inserting its
own footer at the end of the message. Since the cryptographic signature
does not include this extra text, the signature test fails with the
result being a bad signature. The footer, as Groups.io calls it, cannot
be removed as mentioned in the FAQ at the bottom of this page:

https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers

I am subscribed to many other lists, mostly about Linux or software
development on Linux and all pass the signed data correctly. Even our
club mailing list hosted on QTH.net passes it correctly and adds a footer
that is separate from the signed message body.

Anyway, I wanted to close this thread and say that what I thought would
be a useful tool for us is made useless by the mailing list host.

72, Nate

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possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."

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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

Michael McEwen
 

TNX K5OSA


On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 09:01 griffithsesq.robert via Groups.Io <signalnaut=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

You are welcome to check into the Packrats Nets on Monday nights. 50.150 7PM 144.150 or .145 7:30 on up the bands. A number of Packrats check in from NJ.

Griff NE3I

 

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From: Dr Jim Kennedy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 6:25 PM
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Any QRP Voice Nets?

 

I live in NJ. I would be interested in beginning a 2, 6 or 10 meter QRP SSB net. Need to pick a day and time that works for many and we could give it a try. Then have a net test to see how copyable participants are.
Nothing great was ever achieved by talk and no action.
--

*72/73, Doc - K2PHD

FN20qv - SKCC#5669 - NAQCC#9194 - FISTS#18988*

 

Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?

griffithsesq.robert
 

You are welcome to check into the Packrats Nets on Monday nights. 50.150 7PM 144.150 or .145 7:30 on up the bands. A number of Packrats check in from NJ.

Griff NE3I

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dr Jim Kennedy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 6:25 PM
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Any QRP Voice Nets?

 

I live in NJ. I would be interested in beginning a 2, 6 or 10 meter QRP SSB net. Need to pick a day and time that works for many and we could give it a try. Then have a net test to see how copyable participants are.
Nothing great was ever achieved by talk and no action.
--

*72/73, Doc - K2PHD

FN20qv - SKCC#5669 - NAQCC#9194 - FISTS#18988*

 

Re: 80 meter net

Paul Goemans
 

Storms rolling over me too. 

WA9PWP

Sent from Paul’s iPhone 

On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Paul Smith <n0nbd@...> wrote:

I was a few minutes late calling but heard NO ONE. I had a S9+10 noise here. maybe next week
de Paul N0NBD

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