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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 20 March 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

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Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Jim Sheldon
 

They're currently out of stock, but I believe a Wiha 30517 is a better deal with a nice handle on it.

Jim, W0EB

On Mar 19, 2019, at 3:00 PM, WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:

While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

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-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

Mike D
 

You can also get replacement hexagonal nuts from Control:

https://www.ctrl-mod.com/collections/diy/products/hex-nuts-bag-of-50

Mike kd5rjz 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 3:00 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@... wrote:
While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Switch and 1/8th Jack Nut driver

WA0ITP
 

While perusing the Horizon Hobby web page to fuel one of my other hobbies, I ran across the wrench below.  It is being sold as a RC Transmitter switch wrench, buit is also works perfectly for the 1/8" Jacks we have on receivers, keyers, amps, xcvrs,etc..  These are the little round nuts that seem impossible to tighten. The bars on the wrench fit into the slots on the nuts.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/spektrum-radio-switch-bezel-wrench--orange-p-spma1310  

-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Gary E. Kohtala
 

You will also find PSK31 at times on or near 7035 USB dial, just below the WSPR sliver. I have made many excellent contacts there.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK



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On Mar 17, 2019, at 18:11, KB9BVN - <kb9bvn@...> wrote:
40m PSK is on 7070

20m PSK is on 14070

Not sure about the rest


On 3/17/2019 5:50 PM, Jim Parks wrote:

Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try
that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well
mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000
FT* contacts so far.

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

*From:* main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*David Speltz
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
*To:* main@4SQRP.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the
Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However,
I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust
characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard
talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will
be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is
so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ



On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...
<mailto:jim.ny0j@...>> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50
years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the
typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo
in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again.
Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal”
antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece
of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio
equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise
I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak
CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard
these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I
downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14
months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and
have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35
DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the
“conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept
one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how
broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag
chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is
that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might
just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new
tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

*From:*main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io><main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io>>*On Behalf Of*Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
*Sent:*Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
*To:*main@4sqrp.groups.io <mailto:main@4sqrp.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly
attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking
time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult
to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I
use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that
don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that
do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes
personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in
perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode.
Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...
<mailto:dwbrayton@...>> wrote:

Gary,

Do you not understand humor?

GetTypeApp for Android<http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=14554>

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <
yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>@groups.io
target=_blank>gary.k7ek=<mailto:gary.k7ek=>yahoo.com
<http://yahoo.com/>@groups.io> wrote:<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Frank,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does
not know what he is talking about.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be
at the computer to initiate contacts<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

and to respond according to what the other station sends.
There is nothing automatic about it.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make
the job a lot easier but the op<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

must still be there throughout the contact. If you would
like to really become knowledgeable about<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently
afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8
gets<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

attacked. That is sad, indeed.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Best regards,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Gary, K7EK<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 03/20/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 20 March 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

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Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Brian Crittendon
 

Most of the time you need a SSB radio. 

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 3:27:44 PM EDT, Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:


Dear All,

    I have not played with digital much (at all really).

    Do they work the same as CW or SSB? Basically can you work Digital
Modes on a CW only transceiver or do you need SSB?

    I have tried to find an answer online but really did not find what
I was looking for.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II
Training Oficer -
Birch Tree Volunteer Fire and Rescue
Member of Missouri Region G HazMat Team

On 3/18/2019 11:58 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
> Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
> don't remember exactly how long they can be.
>
> tim ab0wr
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
> "John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:
>
>> I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
>> radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
>> an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
>> just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
>> square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
>> robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
>> of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
>> JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
>> making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
>> having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
>> different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
>> regard.
>>
>> On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
>> years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
>> put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
>> 4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
>> frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
>> and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
>> think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.
>>
>> 72,
>> John, AA0VE
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Don, W9EBK
 

A voice transmitter is required.  Usually SSB, although FM will work if allowed. I can't think of any digital mode you can use on a cw only transmitter,  other than CW. 
The good news is your CW receive would work if you want to give receiving a try.  Just feed the audio into a computer mic jack and run free software like FLdigi.

Don, W9EBK 

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 2:27 PM Jeff Collins <w7grv@... wrote:
Dear All,

     I have not played with digital much (at all really).

     Do they work the same as CW or SSB? Basically can you work Digital
Modes on a CW only transceiver or do you need SSB?

     I have tried to find an answer online but really did not find what
I was looking for.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II
Training Oficer -
Birch Tree Volunteer Fire and Rescue
Member of Missouri Region G HazMat Team

On 3/18/2019 11:58 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
> Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
> don't remember exactly how long they can be.
>
> tim ab0wr
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
> "John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:
>
>> I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
>> radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
>> an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
>> just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
>> square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
>> robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
>> of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
>> JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
>> making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
>> having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
>> different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
>> regard.
>>
>> On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
>> years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
>> put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
>> 4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
>> frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
>> and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
>> think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.
>>
>> 72,
>> John, AA0VE
>>
>>
>>
>
>




Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Jeff Collins
 

Dear All,

    I have not played with digital much (at all really).

    Do they work the same as CW or SSB? Basically can you work Digital Modes on a CW only transceiver or do you need SSB?

    I have tried to find an answer online but really did not find what I was looking for.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II
Training Oficer -
Birch Tree Volunteer Fire and Rescue
Member of Missouri Region G HazMat Team

On 3/18/2019 11:58 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
don't remember exactly how long they can be.

tim ab0wr

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
"John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:

I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
regard.

On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.

72,
John, AA0VE



Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Gary E. Kohtala
 

The answers to that can be found here:





JT9 is much superior to JT65, especially for lower power stations. Sadly, however, FT8 has all but
replaced JT9 and JT65 on HF. JT9 is significantly better than FT8 but has longer T/R sequences.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


----


On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:19:38 PM EDT, Tim Gorman <tgorman2@...> wrote:



Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
don't remember exactly how long they can be.

tim ab0wr

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
"John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:

> I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
> radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
> an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
> just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
> square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
> robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
> of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
> JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
> making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
> having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
> different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
> regard.
>
> On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
> years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
> put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
> 4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
> frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
> and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
> think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.
>
> 72,
> John, AA0VE
>
>
>



Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Tim Gorman
 

Check out jt65. IIRC, you can generate messages of limited length, I
don't remember exactly how long they can be.

tim ab0wr

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:22:51 -0500
"John Lonigro" <jonigro@...> wrote:

I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur
radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in
an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that
just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid
square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as
robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters
of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be
JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy
making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and
having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a
different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that
regard.

On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many
years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never
put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about
4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The
frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation
and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested. I
think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.

72,
John, AA0VE



Another Ham Radio supplier

Walter - K5EST
 

Checking on the Ides of March HamFest,    http://www.reelfootarc.com/             a new company popped up that was not on my list of suppliers. 

TN07 Engineering........   https://tn07.com/

and their portable ops  https://tn07.com/portable-operations


were welcome reading. Don't know a thing about the company but another Ham Radio manufacturer/supplier that has products that fit the QRP Nation is welcome in my books.

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention




Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

John Lonigro
 

I guess I concur with Tom.  However, I believe one reason amateur radio even exists is to have a means of providing communications in an emergency.  I'm not very familiar with FT8, but I've heard that just about all you can exchange is a callsign and maybe a grid square.  I think the ideal digital mode would be one that's almost as robust as FT8 but with the ability to send at least 30-40 characters of data besides callsigns.  I don't know but perhaps that would be JS8CALL, as mentioned by Dennis Shelton.  But if someone is happy making FT8 contacts, at least he's making use of the airwaves and having fun in the process.  In an emergency, he may have to use a different mode but his FT8 experience will certainly help in that regard.

On a separate topic, I have an SW+ 80M CW transceiver I built many years ago.  I don't have room for a good 80M antenna and have never put it on the air.  It's in an original Small Wonder case (about 4"x4"x2") and puts out about 1.5 Watts from 3.556 - 3.587 MHz.  The frequency range can be adjusted.  It comes with full documentation and will be available for sale at Ozarkcon if anyone is interested.  I think with case it cost me about $100.  I'll sell it for $50.

72,
John, AA0VE

On 3/18/19 8:45 AM, Thomas Martin wrote:
My two cents worth
Making contacts is the fun of Ham radio finding a station to work no matter the mode used.
We have seen a reassurance of CW recently when people were saying it was going away.  
Some times getting the Software and computer working for the new modes is a little challenging at least for me but solving those problems is what makes ham radio fun.

Tom
K0amd


On Mar 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Dave Benson <davek1swl@...> wrote:

At the risking of hijacking the original thread, I'll add my two-cents worth.

I'm using FT8 because it's a good way to rack up QSOs. My passion these days is for portable operation, where programs like SOTA and POTA need a certain number of contacts for activation credit. At least during weekdays, it can be tough to scrounge up the necessary minimum on CW if you're not 'spotted'.  By contrast, FT8 is always jumping if the band's open.  It's a matter of 'going where the action is'. The contacts themselves aren't terribly exciting.

I'm preparing for warmer weather here (NH) by assembling a portable FT8 station.  A Microsoft 'Surface' and a homebrew FT8 transceiver. The rig runs 8 watts out, and recently picked up a new country - EA9 (Cueta y Mellila)- with it.  And yes- I'll have a small CW rig along on outings- that mode has always been my favorite.

73- Dave, K1SWL

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Speltz <dspeltz@...> wrote:
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ

On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
 
 
73
Jim Parks  NY0J
 
 
 
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
 
 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)

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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary, 

Do you not understand humor? 

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: 



Re: More Hilltopper success - Word to the wise

KB9BVN - <kb9bvn@...>
 

Don,

I managed one contact on Saturday

HH2AA from Haiti

But that was all I got.  Sunday the band was really under used.

de KB9BVN

On 3/17/2019 11:06 PM, W6BOW via Groups.Io wrote:
Dear All,

I worked the following over the weekend with my Hilltopper 20. ...

KL7SB    AK
N0AC      IA
N5LCC    LA
CJ3A       Ontario Canida

RDX Contest stations were *pounding in* here on Saturday.
(Anybody work some?)
Pretty sure I could have done so myself but waited until Sunday.
Nada. Band blank.

Word to the wise … "You snooze you loose".

W6BOW
Don
San Francisco CA


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Thomas Martin
 

My two cents worth
Making contacts is the fun of Ham radio finding a station to work no matter the mode used.
We have seen a reassurance of CW recently when people were saying it was going away.  
Some times getting the Software and computer working for the new modes is a little challenging at least for me but solving those problems is what makes ham radio fun.

Tom
K0amd


On Mar 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Dave Benson <davek1swl@...> wrote:

At the risking of hijacking the original thread, I'll add my two-cents worth.

I'm using FT8 because it's a good way to rack up QSOs. My passion these days is for portable operation, where programs like SOTA and POTA need a certain number of contacts for activation credit. At least during weekdays, it can be tough to scrounge up the necessary minimum on CW if you're not 'spotted'.  By contrast, FT8 is always jumping if the band's open.  It's a matter of 'going where the action is'. The contacts themselves aren't terribly exciting.

I'm preparing for warmer weather here (NH) by assembling a portable FT8 station.  A Microsoft 'Surface' and a homebrew FT8 transceiver. The rig runs 8 watts out, and recently picked up a new country - EA9 (Cueta y Mellila)- with it.  And yes- I'll have a small CW rig along on outings- that mode has always been my favorite.

73- Dave, K1SWL

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Speltz <dspeltz@...> wrote:
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ

On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
 
 
73
Jim Parks  NY0J
 
 
 
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
 
 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)

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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary, 

Do you not understand humor? 

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: 






Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Dave Benson
 

At the risking of hijacking the original thread, I'll add my two-cents worth.

I'm using FT8 because it's a good way to rack up QSOs. My passion these days is for portable operation, where programs like SOTA and POTA need a certain number of contacts for activation credit. At least during weekdays, it can be tough to scrounge up the necessary minimum on CW if you're not 'spotted'.  By contrast, FT8 is always jumping if the band's open.  It's a matter of 'going where the action is'. The contacts themselves aren't terribly exciting.

I'm preparing for warmer weather here (NH) by assembling a portable FT8 station.  A Microsoft 'Surface' and a homebrew FT8 transceiver. The rig runs 8 watts out, and recently picked up a new country - EA9 (Cueta y Mellila)- with it.  And yes- I'll have a small CW rig along on outings- that mode has always been my favorite.

73- Dave, K1SWL


On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Speltz <dspeltz@...> wrote:
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ

On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
 
 
73
Jim Parks  NY0J
 
 
 
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
 
 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)

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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary, 

Do you not understand humor? 

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: 






Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Paul AI4EE
 

Want digital QSOs? Have you tried JS8CALL?


On 3/17/2019 4:44 PM, David Speltz wrote:
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ

On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
 
 
73
Jim Parks  NY0J
 
 
 
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
 
 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)

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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary, 

Do you not understand humor? 

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: 


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More Hilltopper success - Word to the wise

W6BOW
 

Dear All,

I worked the following over the weekend with my Hilltopper 20. ...

KL7SB    AK
N0AC      IA
N5LCC    LA
CJ3A       Ontario Canida

RDX Contest stations were pounding in here on Saturday.
(Anybody work some?)
Pretty sure I could have done so myself but waited until Sunday.
Nada. Band blank.

Word to the wise … "You snooze you loose".

W6BOW
Don
San Francisco CA

 


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Jim Parks
 

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of KB9BVN -
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

40m PSK is on 7070

20m PSK is on 14070

Not sure about the rest


On 3/17/2019 5:50 PM, Jim Parks wrote:

Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try
that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well
mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000
FT* contacts so far.

73

Jim Parks NY0J

*From:* main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*David Speltz
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
*To:* main@4SQRP.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the
Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However,
I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust
characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard
talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will
be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is
so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ



On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...
<mailto:jim.ny0j@...>> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50
years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the
typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo
in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again.
Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal”
antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece
of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio
equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise
I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak
CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard
these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I
downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14
months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and
have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35
DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the
“conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept
one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how
broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag
chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is
that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might
just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new
tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!

73

Jim Parks NY0J

*From:*main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io><main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io>>*On Behalf Of*Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
*Sent:*Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
*To:*main@4sqrp.groups.io <mailto:main@4sqrp.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly
attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking
time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult
to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I
use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that
don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that
do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes
personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in
perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode.
Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <@DuaneIUV
<mailto:@DuaneIUV>> wrote:

Gary,

Do you not understand humor?

GetTypeApp for Android<http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=14554>

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <
yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>@groups.io
target=_blank>gary.k7ek=<mailto:gary.k7ek=>yahoo.com
<http://yahoo.com/>@groups.io> wrote:<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Frank,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does
not know what he is talking about.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be
at the computer to initiate contacts<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

and to respond according to what the other station sends.
There is nothing automatic about it.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make
the job a lot easier but the op<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

must still be there throughout the contact. If you would
like to really become knowledgeable
about<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:

<mailto:gary.k7ek=>http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/
wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently
afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8
gets<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

attacked. That is sad, indeed.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Best regards,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Gary, K7EK<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

KB9BVN - <kb9bvn@...>
 

40m PSK is on 7070

20m PSK is on 14070

Not sure about the rest

On 3/17/2019 5:50 PM, Jim Parks wrote:

Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000 FT* contacts so far.

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

*From:* main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Speltz
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
*To:* main@4SQRP.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ



On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...
<mailto:jim.ny0j@...>> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50
years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the
typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo
in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again.
Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal”
antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece
of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio
equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise
I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak
CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard
these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I
downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14
months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and
have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35
DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the
“conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept
one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how
broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag
chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is
that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might
just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new
tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

*From:*main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io><main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io>>*On Behalf Of*Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
*Sent:*Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
*To:*main@4sqrp.groups.io <mailto:main@4sqrp.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly
attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking
time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult
to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I
use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that
don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that
do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes
personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in
perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode.
Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


Sent fromBlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=14562>

On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <@DuaneIUV
<mailto:@DuaneIUV>> wrote:

Gary,

Do you not understand humor?

GetTypeApp for Android<http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=14554>

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <
yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>@groups.io
target=_blank>gary.k7ek=<mailto:gary.k7ek=>yahoo.com
<http://yahoo.com/>@groups.io> wrote:<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Frank,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does
not know what he is talking about.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be
at the computer to initiate contacts<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

and to respond according to what the other station sends.
There is nothing automatic about it.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make
the job a lot easier but the op<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

must still be there throughout the contact. If you would
like to really become knowledgeable about<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently
afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8
gets<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

attacked. That is sad, indeed.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Best regards,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>

Gary, K7EK<mailto:gary.k7ek=>


<mailto:gary.k7ek=>