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Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Jim Parks
 

Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000 FT* contacts so far.

 

 

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Speltz
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

 

FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

 

David KB1PJ



On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote:

 

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!

 

 

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

 

 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:

Gary, 

Do you not understand humor? 

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: 





 


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

David Speltz
 

FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH.  However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work.  I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.

David KB1PJ

On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote:

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
 
 
73
Jim Parks  NY0J
 
 
 
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
 
 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)

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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary, 

Do you not understand humor? 

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: 






Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Jim Parks
 

Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due  to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!

 

 

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

 

 

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)

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On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:

Gary,

Do you not understand humor?

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:






Re: Learning KiCad at Ozarkcon

Walter - K5EST
 

Hi Tim,

Saturday   1:30 - 3:00 PM 3D printers & KiCad   Bring laptops to follow   Barry Buelow - WØIY

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention





On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:02 AM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
Walter,

When are the KiCAD sessions to be held?

Tim N9PUZ

On 3/14/2019 1:10 PM, Walter - K5EST wrote:
Hi Everyone, at Ozarkcon this year is a really great chance to learn how to use 
KiCad for making professional PCB layouts and 3D printing for your cabinets for radio gear! 

KiCad works for SMD or THT components, ground planes, and lots of other great features. KiCad is as easy to use for schematic capture, PCB layout and it even gives a 3D rendering of the assembled board. PCB are easy to order direct from China. Download KiCad (see below) and bring along your pc; we'll work on a project together.

KiCad now has a push and shove router which is capable of routing differential pairs and interactively. 
tuning trace lengths.

3D printing is a very cool new technology that kids are learning in middle and high school to make small cabinets, paddles for keyers, etc.  Download and install FreeCad to follow along. Working with 3D is not as difficult at you think.

Barry Buelow - WØIY has 2 time sections of learning this great software for 
us at Ozarkcon. Bring your laptops to follow along with the presentations.

You can download KiCad for free at http://kicad-pcb.org/

What computer OS do you use? Can I use my computer?
Here is the page that gives the info: http://kicad-pcb.org/download/
AND for you Chromebook owners, yes it is possible to run KiCad,

Will KiCad get me away from dead-bug construction? Well, it sure has
a good chance of me changing my ancient ways :-)

Here is a link to FreeCad:      https://www.freecadweb.org/

See you all at Branson.......it's gonna be fun!

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention




Re: Learning KiCad at Ozarkcon

Tim N9PUZ
 

Walter,

When are the KiCAD sessions to be held?

Tim N9PUZ

On 3/14/2019 1:10 PM, Walter - K5EST wrote:
Hi Everyone, at Ozarkcon this year is a really great chance to learn how to use 
KiCad for making professional PCB layouts and 3D printing for your cabinets for radio gear! 

KiCad works for SMD or THT components, ground planes, and lots of other great features. KiCad is as easy to use for schematic capture, PCB layout and it even gives a 3D rendering of the assembled board. PCB are easy to order direct from China. Download KiCad (see below) and bring along your pc; we'll work on a project together.

KiCad now has a push and shove router which is capable of routing differential pairs and interactively. 
tuning trace lengths.

3D printing is a very cool new technology that kids are learning in middle and high school to make small cabinets, paddles for keyers, etc.  Download and install FreeCad to follow along. Working with 3D is not as difficult at you think.

Barry Buelow - WØIY has 2 time sections of learning this great software for 
us at Ozarkcon. Bring your laptops to follow along with the presentations.

You can download KiCad for free at http://kicad-pcb.org/

What computer OS do you use? Can I use my computer?
Here is the page that gives the info: http://kicad-pcb.org/download/
AND for you Chromebook owners, yes it is possible to run KiCad,

Will KiCad get me away from dead-bug construction? Well, it sure has
a good chance of me changing my ancient ways :-)

Here is a link to FreeCad:      https://www.freecadweb.org/

See you all at Branson.......it's gonna be fun!

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention




MODERATOR NOTE: DMR at Ozarkcon

Tim N9PUZ
 

Please remember to keep these discussions "family friendly" and do not go in for personal attacks and mean spirited behavior.

I know it's been a  long winter for many of us and we're all wishing Ozarkcon was here. Just keep things friendly please.

72/73,

Tim N9PUZ
4SQRP List Co-Moderator


Re: Extraordinary dining at College of the Ozarks, on break from Ozarkcon

Jim Parks
 

The Keeter Center dining room at Collage of the Ozarks has a wonderful Sunday brunch in addition to their normal great fine dining. The service is exceptional and the food is fantastic. A lot of it is produced on the College farm where students work. Also their home-made ice cream is the best. As a Branson resident, I can highly recommend both locations for great fine dining.

 

 

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

 

 

 

The other excellent fine dining establishment is the dining room at the Chateau on the Lake hotel. Pricy but excellent.

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Brown
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:02 AM
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: [4SQRP] Extraordinary dining at College of the Ozarks, on break from Ozarkcon

 

All,
The College of the Ozarks is just south of Branson and its students are all on a
work/study full scholarships. None of these students pay tuition.

More than a few  students work 15 hrs/wk in their school's dining facility "on scholarship."

https://www.keetercenter.edu/Dining.aspx

Larry, NS4Q, and I will be seeking this place out again for fine dining at every opportunity.
We split the "smoked prime rib" and pay a small charge for extra veggies for dinner.
Lunch is a little "lighter."

Hope to see you there!

72/73,
Jerry N4EO, ex-YI9EO, ex-HL9EO

PS- I am a MIZZOU alumnus (MSEE- '70))



Extraordinary dining at College of the Ozarks, on break from Ozarkcon

Jerry Brown
 

All,
The College of the Ozarks is just south of Branson and its students are all on a
work/study full scholarships. None of these students pay tuition.

More than a few  students work 15 hrs/wk in their school's dining facility "on scholarship."

https://www.keetercenter.edu/Dining.aspx

Larry, NS4Q, and I will be seeking this place out again for fine dining at every opportunity.
We split the "smoked prime rib" and pay a small charge for extra veggies for dinner.
Lunch is a little "lighter."

Hope to see you there!

72/73,
Jerry N4EO, ex-YI9EO, ex-HL9EO

PS- I am a MIZZOU alumnus (MSEE- '70))




Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Frank Perkins
 

Gary, Kentucky is beautiful.
If you get a chance, go North on 31W a little ways to West Point.
As a teenager, I spent time there with my grandfather who lived about 2 blocks from the river. I was born and raised in Lexington.
Small world.
Frank N6CES

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 9:41 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


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Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Gary E. Kohtala
 


Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8  (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts).  This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Radcliff, KY (EM77at)


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Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

W0EAX
 

Frank
Having just retired as an IT Manager and been involved with networks, government radio systems and cellphones, I see a lot of truth in which you write. Having been a ham operator since 1957, I have witnessed many operating system changes. I don’t see to much fairy dust in your writing. Case in point, Echo Link (networking), the J Modes, FT8, once again computer networking(my thoughts) and we now have cellphones that are also being used as 2 meter/440 transceivers. 
Your writing was very clever.
I have a camera that sometimes makes telephone calls ( i7 Plus)
Ron, W0EAX


On Mar 16, 2019, at 1:36 PM, jleahy00 via Groups.Io <jleahy00@...> wrote:

I thought Frank’s definition so funny I sent it out to the 3 local clubs that I belong to..... believe it or not some thought Frank was serious !

It is close though ?

John
KK4ITX 

If you need a parachute and don't have one you probably won't need one again.

On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:32, Frank Perkins <N6CES.r@...> wrote:

Good morning Gary,
I was just joking around while sorting out all the wire jumpers in my rigblaster duo.
I thought I'd thrown enough fairy dust in my story to make it funny, but not believable.  Maybe not.
Frank


On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:35 AM Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin

On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@...> wrote:


Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) 
and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks 
to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that 
can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the 
other end of the QSO.

This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or 
Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss 
RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?

Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon 
newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't 
that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?

Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun 
will not bother my transmissions :-)

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved  Specialty Operating Convention





On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

John - KK4ITX
 

I thought Frank’s definition so funny I sent it out to the 3 local clubs that I belong to..... believe it or not some thought Frank was serious !

It is close though ?

John
KK4ITX 

If you need a parachute and don't have one you probably won't need one again.

On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:32, Frank Perkins <N6CES.r@...> wrote:

Good morning Gary,
I was just joking around while sorting out all the wire jumpers in my rigblaster duo.
I thought I'd thrown enough fairy dust in my story to make it funny, but not believable.  Maybe not.
Frank


On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:35 AM Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin

On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@...> wrote:


Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) 
and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks 
to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that 
can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the 
other end of the QSO.

This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or 
Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss 
RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?

Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon 
newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't 
that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?

Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun 
will not bother my transmissions :-)

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved  Specialty Operating Convention





On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Frank Perkins
 

Good morning Gary,
I was just joking around while sorting out all the wire jumpers in my rigblaster duo.
I thought I'd thrown enough fairy dust in my story to make it funny, but not believable.  Maybe not.
Frank


On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:35 AM Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin

On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@...> wrote:


Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) 
and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks 
to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that 
can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the 
other end of the QSO.

This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or 
Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss 
RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?

Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon 
newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't 
that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?

Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun 
will not bother my transmissions :-)

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved  Specialty Operating Convention





On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Brian Crittendon
 

Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin

On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@...> wrote:


Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) 
and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks 
to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that 
can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the 
other end of the QSO.

This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or 
Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss 
RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?

Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon 
newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't 
that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?

Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun 
will not bother my transmissions :-)

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved  Specialty Operating Convention





On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Five days left to register for Ozarkcon

Walter - K5EST
 

GM All, we are at the critical time for registration to Ozarkcon. With 5 days remaining events are getting filled and if you have not contacted the hotel then getting a room at the event headquarters is also near full capacity.

Some folks have chosen to snail mail in their monies but it must reach us before the registration closing or you loose your events choice. Paying at the Ozarkcon registration booth window is not an option if you have selected events with seating limits.

Looks like another wonderful weekend of QRP fun and getting to see friends again.

See you all at Branson........ it's gonna be fun!

73,
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention



Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Duane Brayton
 

Gary,
Do you not understand humor?

On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Jim Parks
 

Albert Einstein once said “People fear what they do not understand and condemn what they fear”

 

 

73

Jim Parks  NY0J

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon

 

Frank,

 

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.

I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts

and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.

There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op

must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about

FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.

Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets

attacked. That is sad, indeed.

 

Best regards,

 

Gary, K7EK

 


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

davemrtn <davemrtn@...>
 

That's a pretty good one Walter !!

I've not heard the 'SOB' thing, that funny.

David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!

On 3/16/2019 01:25, Walter - K5EST wrote:
Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) 
and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks 
to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that 
can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the 
other end of the QSO.

This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or 
Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss 
RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?

Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon 
newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't 
that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?

Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun 
will not bother my transmissions :-)

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention




On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Walter - K5EST
 

Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) 
and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks 
to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that 
can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the 
other end of the QSO.

This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or 
Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss 
RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?

Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon 
newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't 
that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?

Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun 
will not bother my transmissions :-)

Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019
 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention





On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK


Re: DMR at Ozarkcon

Gary E. Kohtala
 

Frank,

FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about.
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts
and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it.
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:  http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets
attacked. That is sad, indeed.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK