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Re: Cryptographic signatures
* On 2019 09 Jul 12:36 -0500, Tommy Gober wrote:
Unless money is changing hands, why bother with signatures?Hi Tommy. Those of us who remember MS-DOS and other early systems can recall not needing a username or password to simply use our computer. It was a bit perturbing to have to do that when I first started learning Linux almost 23 years ago. Eventually Microsoft made user accounts a part of their systems and now it is second nature. Likewise, the use of SSL on the WWW via the HTTPS protocol started out as a means to protect financial transactions and now browsers may complain if a site doesn't use SSL. The world is gravitating toward a greater use of cryptography even for trivial things. Here I'm not even advocating for the use of encryption, just signatures. I agree that most of our communication is of little interest outside of the QRP segment of the amateur radio hobby, but those who wish to play on and against our good will couldn't care less. If you're making a deal with someone to buy/sell things, then it might beI understand your point. I want to be sure that others know and can be reasonably certain via a signature check that it's really me offering some item for sale or offering to purchase some item. Beyond that, I want the same for all my electronic communications, trivial or not, because it is no fun when people believe something was sent when it was really due to a spoof. After that happened to me once, I chose to nip in the bud rather than hope it wouldn't happen again on a larger scale. I am active on quite a number of mailing lists and would like to avoid any loss of good will that may exist. My mail program made it reasonably easy to set up automatically signing my mail, so I do so. I am disappointed that the powers that be of groups.io have chosen to break this very basic way a lot of us that use email extensively to protect ourselves from spoofing. As I may have noted earlier, there are at least two lists I subscribe to that reject signed mail. This is unfortunate and so I mostly just read them and do not participate as much. Regardless, so long as the various lists on groups.io don't reject my signed mail outright, I will continue to send signed mail. 72/73, Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Thomas Martin
Just as a side note on learning CW the long island radio club runs classes on line for those that want learn code or increase speed. They use Zoom video conferencing on line to present the classes.
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I am sorry I don’t have the website but with google it should be easy. These are a nice group and will work with new learners and big boosters of CW. Tom K0amd
On Jul 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Charles W. Powell via Groups.Io <doctorcwp=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Michael McEwen
Tnx for the info on the ssb net. I'll check it out for listening...building an ssb txmtr kit.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 16:04 Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Brian Crittendon
I like SSB QRP radios for PSK 31 and other modes while the sun spots are on vacation. Mark/WQ8S
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 04:03:59 PM EDT, Lee Hiers <lee.hiers@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:11 AM Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote: > Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has > some kind of brain blockage that is not allowing us to learn CW (have > attempted to learn in more than one way)? NOGAQRP has a SSB net every Thursday night on 3975.5 KHz from 2030 to 2100 EDT (0030-0100Z). 73 de Lee, AA4GA
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FOXHUNT: Fox hunt Thursday 11 July N9EP/WX2S
Dale Putnam
Hi folks-just a heads up that our next hunt is this
Thursday 11 July (local date) 0100-0230 July 12 UTC.
I’ll be one of your foxii, the other will be Steve WX2S in NJ. This first-time fox will be hanging out somewhere between 14050-14070 KHz. You will hear the "standard exchange": (substitute appropriate RST) <your call> xx9 IL ED 5W <your call> I will be giving "true" RST reports, so be sure to listen closely. i will be sending at 20 WPM to try and accommodate as many folks as possible. Feel free to call me at any (reasonable) speed. I start to fade at about 40 WPM. I will operate split to start, listening up 1 to 1.5 KHz. I will indicate that I'm listening split by sending "UP". After the calls thin out, I may go to simplex, listen closely for the "UP", if you don't hear it call me simplex. You can probably improve your odds when working simplex if you don't zero-beat me. Hope to hear you all and pass out a lot of pelts! 73 Ed N9EP _
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Lee Hiers
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:11 AM Jeff Collins <w7grv@jeffcollinsonline.com> wrote:
Other than the DMR Net are there any QRP Voice Nets for us that has NOGAQRP has a SSB net every Thursday night on 3975.5 KHz from 2030 to 2100 EDT (0030-0100Z). 73 de Lee, AA4GA
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Charles W. Powell
Jeff,
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I think it’s always worth asking how you are trying to learn CW? Using a program? Which one? What is the character speed and effective speed? While there may be folks who *can’t* learn Morse code, I’m in the corner of those who believe that almost anyone *can* learn it, when correctly taught. Can you expound a bit on where you are going with Morse? You may be going too fast/too slow or some other obstacle. You are absolutely right about QRP and SSB, at least with band conditions the way they are. I will say though that one of my very few SSB contacts, back in 2012 when the bands were a lot better, I made a contact with 5 watts to Arizona (from Kansas) and the fellow at the other end simply would not believe I was running 5 watts. But in 2012 the bands were not in the absolute depths of the propagation cesspool. I did see in the later responses that there are folks who participate in some QRP voice nets. 72, Chas - NK8O
On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:11 AM, Jeff Collins <w7grv@jeffcollinsonline.com> wrote:
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Re: Cryptographic signatures
Tommy Gober
Unless money is changing hands, why bother with signatures? Most of the emails sent are just yak and opinions. If I don't like it or care, I delete. If someone's going to the trouble of spoofing an email from you, emailing erroneous opinions to the email list is probably not their target. If you're making a deal with someone to buy/sell things, then it might be worth considering. For moderately priced items (dollar amounts I'd be really sad to completely lose), I'll want a phone call or check that your email is the same one I'm sending money to via PayPal (and that you've used that address for some time).
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM Nate Bargmann <n0nb@...> wrote: I just got a bounce that the other topic was locked. I'd like to
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Re: Upcoming Event: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm
#cal-reminder
To familiar with DST
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On Monday, July 8, 2019, 20:00, main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@4SQRP.groups.io> wrote:
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Upcoming Event: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/10/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm
#cal-reminder
main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
Reminder: Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets When: Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 8:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-05:00) America/Chicago Where:40 and 80 Meters Organizer: jomatlock@... Description: The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm DST central time on 7.122 +-. QRM
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Re: Cryptographic signatures
As I understand it now, Groups.io munges the email body by inserting its
own footer at the end of the message. Since the cryptographic signature does not include this extra text, the signature test fails with the result being a bad signature. The footer, as Groups.io calls it, cannot be removed as mentioned in the FAQ at the bottom of this page: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers I am subscribed to many other lists, mostly about Linux or software development on Linux and all pass the signed data correctly. Even our club mailing list hosted on QTH.net passes it correctly and adds a footer that is separate from the signed message body. Anyway, I wanted to close this thread and say that what I thought would be a useful tool for us is made useless by the mailing list host. 72, Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Michael McEwen
TNX K5OSA
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 09:01 griffithsesq.robert via Groups.Io <signalnaut=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
griffithsesq.robert
You are welcome to check into the Packrats Nets on Monday nights. 50.150 7PM 144.150 or .145 7:30 on up the bands. A number of Packrats check in from NJ. Griff NE3I
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From: Dr Jim Kennedy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 6:25 PM To: main@4SQRP.groups.io Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Any QRP Voice Nets?
I live in NJ. I would be interested in beginning a 2, 6 or 10 meter QRP SSB net. Need to pick a day and time that works for many and we could give it a try. Then have a net test to see how copyable participants are. *72/73, Doc - K2PHD FN20qv - SKCC#5669 - NAQCC#9194 - FISTS#18988*
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Re: 80 meter net
Paul Goemans
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Paul AI4EE
The ten meter folks used to have a backscatter net. They basically pointed their antennas away from whomever they tried to contact. Dunno if this would work with the current low sunspot count. On 7/3/2019 6:25 PM, Dr Jim Kennedy via Groups.Io wrote:
I live in NJ. I would be interested in beginning a 2, 6 or 10 meter QRP SSB net. Need to pick a day and time that works for many and we could give it a try. Then have a net test to see how copyable participants are.
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Re: 40M Net Wx
Very noisy tonight in Maine on 40.
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80 is open to Europe for me but otherwise I don’t hear anything on 3564. John KK4ITX If you need a parachute and don't have one you probably won't need one again.
On Jul 3, 2019, at 21:16, Paul Goemans <wa9pwp@...> wrote:
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80 meter net
Paul Smith
I was a few minutes late calling but heard NO ONE. I had a S9+10 noise here. maybe next week
de Paul N0NBD
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Re: Any QRP Voice Nets?
Michael McEwen
Thank you all for your emails about SSB...I am having to do some downsizing and made the decision to specialize in SSB. The XYL is delighted in the reduction of my gear and I can focus on getting a couple of things done instead of being surrounded by things that others might enjoy. Please let me know of QRP SSB activities or groups.
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Re: 40M Net Wx
Paul Goemans
Same here!
Paul
Goemans WA9PWP
Stoughton, WI
From: WA0ITP
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 7:49 PM
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] 40M Net Wx we
have a big boomer overhead, lightning, and tremendous QRN.. I have to pull the
plug, sri guys. Maybe someone in better wx can pick it
up. -- 72 WAØITP I love this radio stuff. www.wa0itp.com www.4sqrp.com
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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 07/03/2019
#cal-notice
main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets When: Where: Organizer: Description:
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