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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 01/02/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 2 January 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-06:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

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Re: MicroVert Antenna

Duane Brayton
 

And so it goes. Been there, done that too. Good luck.
72s Duane. KE0OUV

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On Dec 31, 2018, at 11:39 PM, Jg <jgoodsell@...> wrote:
Oh the power of suggestion! After following this thread, last night I soldered in backwards a 16 pin IC. I swear I triple checked it! Removal went ok except pin 4 broke off flush with the board and I have been unable to get it out.  And of course I’ve peeled the foil off the bottom of the board in my removal effort. Now I’ll have to try some ugly jumper/work-around to save this kit. Just gotta laugh...

73
John
K6WS
Ex-WB6HVH


On Dec 29, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:

You're more than welcome.
72 Duane

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On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, N1KWW < bgrass2@...> wrote:
Success in removing part, tweezers and iron removed wires. Thanks.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 8:05 PM Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
If you have a hot air station & hot tweezers, it's a breeze. If not, back to old school.  Most important thing is to not damage the board and I've replaced hundreds of IC's under varying conditions as a Tech/Test Engineer.
72s & Happy New Year.
Duane KE0IUV


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On Dec 28, 2018, at 5:04 PM, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@ groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@ groups.io> wrote:
I've also done it. Somehow I wasn't paying attention and got an IC installed backwards in a wattmeter kit.   Removing the errant device is on top of my to do list,  along with getting my Hilltoppers built. I may install a socket this time around. Not sure if that would generate further problems down the road. I am going to bring in the new year with a deluxe hot air soldering station, the X-tronic #6040. This should aid my efforts to complete my wattmeter and Hilltopper construction. Wish me luck..

Happy new year!

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

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On Dec 28, 2018, at 10:21, Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
We have all done it if we have done any building at all, so don't feel bad.

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On Dec 28, 2018, at 1:13 PM, N1KWW < bgrass2@...> wrote:
Thanks, and I was being so careful!!!

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 4:02 PM Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
You have lost the mismounted semiconductor. Cut the leads with a flush sidecutter or xacto blade as close to the semiconductor as possible and tip it up or remove it.  That should allow you to remove the remaining leads from the thruholes with soldering iron & tweezers or push them out backwards.
Do not overheat and damage the PCB. Good luck.
Duane KE0IUV

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On Dec 27, 2018, at 2:53 PM, N1KWW < bgrass2@...> wrote:
Previous wire antenna farm had loop for 160 roughly 560 feet. Competed with those running maximum power. 
Yes, I was happy. Now everything is scaled down to a 43 foot dipole wrapped around three sides of building. When weather warms up will 
put up an off center fed with 4-1 balun. (My spell check selected balloon, baling and blain) 
Building a 20mm QRP rig and placed a semiconductor backwards. Have tried the usual methods, solder sucker and wick to no avail. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 4:45 PM d balfour < davesters@...> wrote:
More wire has been good for me as well. My radios vary from 5w to about 70w max output. I insisted on having tuned antennas but gradually have deviated and gone to the more is better. Our (xyl is a ham too) latest creation is an 1150 foot horizontal loop fed into a homemade 4:1 current balun into coax back into a manual tuner.

It is at the same time quieter and gives better signal reports than my other antennas mostly dipoles and a 40 m loop.

I see (hear) hams who use and brag on air that everyone on 40 needs an amp or they don't belong. huh.

Sorry for deviating off topic Pretty hard to be portable except on the deck with a big loop.
73
Dave




Re: MicroVert Antenna

Brian Crittendon
 

Been there, done that.  Mark/WQ8S


Re: MicroVert Antenna

Jg
 

Oh the power of suggestion! After following this thread, last night I soldered in backwards a 16 pin IC. I swear I triple checked it! Removal went ok except pin 4 broke off flush with the board and I have been unable to get it out.  And of course I’ve peeled the foil off the bottom of the board in my removal effort. Now I’ll have to try some ugly jumper/work-around to save this kit. Just gotta laugh...

73
John
K6WS
Ex-WB6HVH


On Dec 29, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote:

You're more than welcome.
72 Duane

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On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, N1KWW <bgrass2@...> wrote:
Success in removing part, tweezers and iron removed wires. Thanks.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 8:05 PM Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
If you have a hot air station & hot tweezers, it's a breeze. If not, back to old school.  Most important thing is to not damage the board and I've replaced hundreds of IC's under varying conditions as a Tech/Test Engineer.
72s & Happy New Year.
Duane KE0IUV


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On Dec 28, 2018, at 5:04 PM, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" < yahoo.com@ groups.io target=_blank>gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@ groups.io> wrote:
I've also done it. Somehow I wasn't paying attention and got an IC installed backwards in a wattmeter kit.   Removing the errant device is on top of my to do list,  along with getting my Hilltoppers built. I may install a socket this time around. Not sure if that would generate further problems down the road. I am going to bring in the new year with a deluxe hot air soldering station, the X-tronic #6040. This should aid my efforts to complete my wattmeter and Hilltopper construction. Wish me luck..

Happy new year!

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

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On Dec 28, 2018, at 10:21, Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
We have all done it if we have done any building at all, so don't feel bad.

Sent from TypeApp
On Dec 28, 2018, at 1:13 PM, N1KWW < bgrass2@...> wrote:
Thanks, and I was being so careful!!!

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 4:02 PM Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
You have lost the mismounted semiconductor. Cut the leads with a flush sidecutter or xacto blade as close to the semiconductor as possible and tip it up or remove it.  That should allow you to remove the remaining leads from the thruholes with soldering iron & tweezers or push them out backwards.
Do not overheat and damage the PCB. Good luck.
Duane KE0IUV

Sent from TypeApp
On Dec 27, 2018, at 2:53 PM, N1KWW < bgrass2@...> wrote:
Previous wire antenna farm had loop for 160 roughly 560 feet. Competed with those running maximum power. 
Yes, I was happy. Now everything is scaled down to a 43 foot dipole wrapped around three sides of building. When weather warms up will 
put up an off center fed with 4-1 balun. (My spell check selected balloon, baling and blain) 
Building a 20mm QRP rig and placed a semiconductor backwards. Have tried the usual methods, solder sucker and wick to no avail. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 4:45 PM d balfour < davesters@...> wrote:
More wire has been good for me as well. My radios vary from 5w to about 70w max output. I insisted on having tuned antennas but gradually have deviated and gone to the more is better. Our (xyl is a ham too) latest creation is an 1150 foot horizontal loop fed into a homemade 4:1 current balun into coax back into a manual tuner.

It is at the same time quieter and gives better signal reports than my other antennas mostly dipoles and a 40 m loop.

I see (hear) hams who use and brag on air that everyone on 40 needs an amp or they don't belong. huh.

Sorry for deviating off topic Pretty hard to be portable except on the deck with a big loop.
73
Dave




Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 01/02/2019 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

main@4SQRP.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 2 January 2019
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-06:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Organizer:
jomatlock@...

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central time  on 7.122 +-. QRM
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at  (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The 80 meter net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.
Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

* NEW *  Wednesday evening DMR Voice Net will be at (Thursday) 0300 UTC (9:00PM Central Time Wednesday/)
Four States QRP has a Brandmeister DMR Talk Group (TG31654). Join us to discuss QRP, ask questions, or just ragchew. The Wednesday net is a directed net  but any other time you may use the Talk Group to chat with other QRPers.
Net Control operator is Bert NØYJ.

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Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Ronald Morrison
 

I used screen door springs on each end of an 80m dipole. I had to put two springs in parallel to handle the weight. The screen door springs stretch quite a bit, so they worked perfectly to counter the movement of the two trees. They last for years when given a coat of exterior grade paint. I stretched them a little before painting to ensure a complete coating.
Ron, K5DUZ
--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 12/30/18, Frank Perkins <N6CES.r@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2018, 11:22 PM

I looked at the
Lowe's link and noticed in the spring's product
specifications that it weighs 9 pounds.Might work well
if one end of it was fastened to the support pole or tree
and other end to the rope. Nine pounds in mid-air = sag. 
:-)Old time screen door spring would be good
too.I think the best idea proposed was to make 2
loops in the rope (my guess is about 3' apart) and put
two 2' bungee cords between the 2 loops (put a tie wrap
across each bungee hook to keep rope captured). Put one of
these gizmoes in each dipole leg's rope and hoist it
up.After weather weakens the bungee and they
stretch out to the loops, time to put in new
bungees.Frank

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 8:56 PM KD5ALD <73deKD5ALD@...
wrote:
Hello :)I bet a good spring or
a bungee cord or strap would work great too :)If
it were mine I would likely give it a good coat of tar
:)73 72 :)
On Sun, Dec
30, 2018 at 9:03 PM Cliff Fox (KU4GW) <@KU4GW>
wrote:
Check out these Gate
Closing Springs they sell at Lowes Home Improvement Tim!
They cost only $5.67 each and look like they'd do the
job well. I suggest using one on both ends if your using it
on a really long dipole like a doublet, zepp, or
double-extended zepp.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-12-in-Zinc-Gate-Extension-Spring/3115909

Very 73,
Cliff, KU4GW


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Casey
 

Some interesting suggestions - my solution was pretty simple. When I lived in the Country outside Peoria, I put a 40 meter Dipole up about 40 feet. I came outside the House with RG58. There was 80' of Coax and the Dipole being held up by Sears 110# Test Polyester Twine with a 14" Crescent Wrench on each end of the Dipole that was just thrown over a Tree Limb. The Trees whipped around pretty good. The Crescents moved up and down a few feet at times, as did the Center Insulator. The biggest problems, it took a few tries to be able to launch the wrench just right, and then having to take that great Antenna down to move to a small city lot in Bloomington. There was no noticeable wear on the Polyester Cord, or the Coax (still in use 22 years late). The only concern was the wrench doing a couple wraps around the Limb and becoming captive. Please advise what you wind up using. 
GL es 73 de KCOIH/WD9GKA LaSalle


Re: Sked Anyone?

W0MQY
 

Hi Terry.  Will be glad to try.  Will give it a shot in the evening around 7:00, 3.564 MHz.  I will try to check the frequency daily. If I have to away from the radio I will send you a text.  Ok?  

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:49 AM <w2sh@...> wrote:


From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 15:48
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

--
Joe Porter, PhD
SEKARC.net
4sqrp.com


Re: Sked Anyone?

w2sh@...
 



From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 15:48
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com


Re: Happy QRP New Year

Michael McEwen
 

Are you in the OKC area?

Doc K5OSA 

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 09:21 Everett Catlin via Groups.Io <everettcatlin=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
I want to wish you all a Happy New Year.

72
Everett Catlin N5MZX
FP #1192,  QRPARCI #5770,   Fists #12809,  4SQRP #1314,  SKCC #16867, NAQCC #8880, MARC member, "Rag Chewers' Club", and Secret and Protective Order of Clandestine Wireless Operators" Agent 038.

My Goal is to average one CW contact a day in this New Year. My code speed has suffered because of some heart related problems.. I hope to meet some of you on the air soon. My CW is slow so please bear with me.

" May The Propagation of the New Solar Cycle Be With Us"

"Vi Manorie Plus Gaudium"


Happy QRP New Year

Everett Catlin
 

I want to wish you all a Happy New Year.

72
Everett Catlin N5MZX
FP #1192,  QRPARCI #5770,   Fists #12809,  4SQRP #1314,  SKCC #16867, NAQCC #8880, MARC member, "Rag Chewers' Club", and Secret and Protective Order of Clandestine Wireless Operators" Agent 038.

My Goal is to average one CW contact a day in this New Year. My code speed has suffered because of some heart related problems.. I hope to meet some of you on the air soon. My CW is slow so please bear with me.

" May The Propagation of the New Solar Cycle Be With Us"

"Vi Manorie Plus Gaudium"


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Tim N9PUZ
 

Thank you everyone who replied with suggestions. I have several workable options to consider now.

73 and Happy New Year!

Tim N9PUZ


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Frank Perkins
 

I looked at the Lowe's link and noticed in the spring's product specifications that it weighs 9 pounds.
Might work well if one end of it was fastened to the support pole or tree and other end to the rope. Nine pounds in mid-air = sag.  :-)
Old time screen door spring would be good too.
I think the best idea proposed was to make 2 loops in the rope (my guess is about 3' apart) and put two 2' bungee cords between the 2 loops (put a tie wrap across each bungee hook to keep rope captured). Put one of these gizmoes in each dipole leg's rope and hoist it up.
After weather weakens the bungee and they stretch out to the loops, time to put in new bungees.
Frank


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 8:56 PM KD5ALD <73deKD5ALD@... wrote:
Hello :)
I bet a good spring or a bungee cord or strap would work great too :)
If it were mine I would likely give it a good coat of tar :)
73 72 :)

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:03 PM Cliff Fox (KU4GW) <cliffku4gw@...> wrote:
Check out these Gate Closing Springs they sell at Lowes Home Improvement Tim! They cost only $5.67 each and look like they'd do the job well. I suggest using one on both ends if your using it on a really long dipole like a doublet, zepp, or double-extended zepp.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-12-in-Zinc-Gate-Extension-Spring/3115909

Very 73,
Cliff, KU4GW


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

KD5ALD
 

Hello :)
I bet a good spring or a bungee cord or strap would work great too :)
If it were mine I would likely give it a good coat of tar :)
73 72 :)


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:03 PM Cliff Fox (KU4GW) <cliffku4gw@...> wrote:
Check out these Gate Closing Springs they sell at Lowes Home Improvement Tim! They cost only $5.67 each and look like they'd do the job well. I suggest using one on both ends if your using it on a really long dipole like a doublet, zepp, or double-extended zepp.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-12-in-Zinc-Gate-Extension-Spring/3115909

Very 73,
Cliff, KU4GW


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Cliff Fox (KU4GW)
 

Check out these Gate Closing Springs they sell at Lowes Home Improvement Tim! They cost only $5.67 each and look like they'd do the job well. I suggest using one on both ends if your using it on a really long dipole like a doublet, zepp, or double-extended zepp.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-12-in-Zinc-Gate-Extension-Spring/3115909

Very 73,
Cliff, KU4GW


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Donald Sanders
 

Tim, I don't know how high you want to go but in Ecuador I used a 2 inch and a 1.5 inch,10 foot PVC pipe bolted together to make a mast. The spring in the PVC was enough to keep everything normal in the wind. I anchored the base on a fence post with adj hose clamps. I put a screw in eye bolt in the center of the pipe cap on the top to run the rope through and tied the rope to the fence post. I used one mast at each end of the dipole and the center feed point was at the top of a 11 meter bamboo pole.
Dr. Don W4BWS

God Bless All



On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 12:44 PM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
Not practical here. I don't have enough room to put that much rope at the end of the wire.

Thanks!

On 12/30/2018 11:28 AM, Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io wrote:
Some rope will have some stretch to it. If you do it this way the rope should be at lest 100 feet long. It's what I do here. Mark/WQ8S 




Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

KD5ALD
 

:) Hello :)
I use tarred nylon twine 
with my radiating wire underneath !
In a fashion so that the nylon can stretch but my wire won't :)
I have a squirrel problem
squirrels just can't stand antenna support lines !
Least if they cut mine they will get tar on their teeth :)
My antenna is a 135 foot or so dipole fed wit ballanced line !
My tunner can tune out a little stretch anyhow !
I like to use copperweld if I can get it !
73 72 88 and all :)


Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Dave Benson
 

Tim-

I'm using a heavy-duty bungee- got it from a big-box home improvement place.  The version I got has carabiners on both ends so it can't unhook.  It's 4 feet long and rated for 50% elongation-  I think it ran about $5.

I've got a fair length of support line threaded through tree branches.  I replaced my original Kevlar support line with 3/32" coated wire cable and appropriate fittings. That way, the branches should give way rather than abrading the the woven line through. That's my hope, anyway.

73- Dave, K1SWL


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 12:08 PM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
One antenna here is an end fed wire. The feed point is around 50 ft but
due to time constraints when it went up last Fall the far end slopes to
around 15 ft and the support rope is tied off at about 10 ft in a large
pine tree. At the 10 feet point the tree is thick enough it does not
sway in the wind.

I would like to raise the far end of the antenna but of course the
higher you go in the pine tree the more it sways when the wind blows.
The wind blows often here in central Illinois!

Looking for low maintenance suggestions for adding a shock absorber of
some sort in the rope that supports the far and. It isn't too practical
to run the rope through a pulley and provide a weight to keep it taught
but that isn't 100% out either. Has anyone had success adding a spring
system, heavy duty bungee cord type absorber, or something else?

Happy New Year everyone!

73,

Tim N9PUZ




Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Hello Tim
You should be able to find better Bungee cords at a hardware/ farm store or a truck stop.
They will still disentagrate in the sun but will make it longer than Harbor freight.

I use old trampoline springs.
They work well.
72
Johnny AC0BQ 


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:46 AM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
Interesting idea. Any idea if there's a type of bungee that holds up
well in the UV, sunlight, etc.? My only experience is with the cheap
ones from Harbor Freight, etc.

Tim N9PUZ

On 12/30/2018 11:35 AM, Mike D wrote:
> Tie a couple of loops in the rope and stretch a bungie cord between
> them.  Works great on dock lines also.
>
> Mike kd5rjz
>




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Re: Looking for Wire Antenna Suggestions

Tim N9PUZ
 

Interesting idea. Any idea if there's a type of bungee that holds up well in the UV, sunlight, etc.? My only experience is with the cheap ones from Harbor Freight, etc.

Tim N9PUZ

On 12/30/2018 11:35 AM, Mike D wrote:
Tie a couple of loops in the rope and stretch a bungie cord between them.  Works great on dock lines also.

Mike kd5rjz