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My two cents worth Making contacts is the fun of Ham radio finding a station to work no matter the mode used. We have seen a reassurance of CW recently when people were saying it was going away. Some times getting the Software and computer working for the new modes is a little challenging at least for me but solving those problems is what makes ham radio fun.
Tom
On Mar 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Dave Benson < davek1swl@...> wrote: At the risking of hijacking the original thread, I'll add my two-cents worth.
I'm using FT8 because it's a good way to rack up QSOs. My passion these days is for portable operation, where programs like SOTA and POTA need a certain number of contacts for activation credit. At least during weekdays, it can be tough to scrounge up the necessary minimum on CW if you're not 'spotted'. By contrast, FT8 is always jumping if the band's open. It's a matter of 'going where the action is'. The contacts themselves aren't terribly exciting.
I'm preparing for warmer weather here (NH) by assembling a portable FT8 station. A Microsoft 'Surface' and a homebrew FT8 transceiver. The rig runs 8 watts out, and recently picked up a new country - EA9 (Cueta y Mellila)- with it. And yes- I'll have a small CW rig along on outings- that mode has always been my favorite.
73- Dave, K1SWL
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Speltz < dspeltz@...> wrote: FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.
David KB1PJ On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks < jim.ny0j@...> wrote:
Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!! 73 Jim Parks NY0J Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off. Do you not understand humor?
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At the risking of hijacking the original thread, I'll add my two-cents worth.
I'm using FT8 because it's a good way to rack up QSOs. My passion these days is for portable operation, where programs like SOTA and POTA need a certain number of contacts for activation credit. At least during weekdays, it can be tough to scrounge up the necessary minimum on CW if you're not 'spotted'. By contrast, FT8 is always jumping if the band's open. It's a matter of 'going where the action is'. The contacts themselves aren't terribly exciting.
I'm preparing for warmer weather here (NH) by assembling a portable FT8 station. A Microsoft 'Surface' and a homebrew FT8 transceiver. The rig runs 8 watts out, and recently picked up a new country - EA9 (Cueta y Mellila)- with it. And yes- I'll have a small CW rig along on outings- that mode has always been my favorite.
73- Dave, K1SWL
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Speltz < dspeltz@...> wrote: FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.
David KB1PJ On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks < jim.ny0j@...> wrote:
Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!! 73 Jim Parks NY0J Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off. Do you not understand humor?
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Want digital QSOs? Have you tried JS8CALL?
On 3/17/2019 4:44 PM, David Speltz wrote:
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard
talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.
David KB1PJ
On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks < jim.ny0j@...> wrote:
Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO
and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury
rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded
the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional”
modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t
knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
73
Jim Parks NY0J
Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate
the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices.
Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.
Do you not understand humor?
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More Hilltopper success - Word to the wise
Dear All,
I worked the following over the weekend with my Hilltopper 20. ...
KL7SB AK
N0AC IA
N5LCC LA
CJ3A Ontario Canida
RDX Contest stations were pounding in here on Saturday.
(Anybody work some?)
Pretty sure I could have done so myself but waited until Sunday.
Nada. Band blank.
Word to the wise … "You snooze you loose".
W6BOW
Don
San Francisco CA
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Thanks.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of KB9BVN - Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:11 PM To: main@4SQRP.groups.io Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon 40m PSK is on 7070 20m PSK is on 14070 Not sure about the rest On 3/17/2019 5:50 PM, Jim Parks wrote:
Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try
that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well
mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000
FT* contacts so far.
73
Jim Parks NY0J
*From:* main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*David Speltz
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
*To:* main@4SQRP.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the
Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However,
I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust
characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard
talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will
be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is
so much more to do and so little time.
David KB1PJ
On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@gmail.com
<mailto:jim.ny0j@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50
years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the
typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo
in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again.
Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal”
antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece
of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio
equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise
I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak
CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard
these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I
downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14
months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and
have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35
DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the
“conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept
one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how
broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag
chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is
that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might
just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new
tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
73
Jim Parks NY0J
*From:*main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io><main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io>>*On Behalf Of*Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
*Sent:*Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
*To:*main@4sqrp.groups.io <mailto:main@4sqrp.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly
attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking
time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult
to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I
use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that
don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that
do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes
personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in
perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode.
Soapbox off.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
Radcliff, KY (EM77at)
Sent fromBlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=14562>;
On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@gmail.com
<mailto:dwbrayton@gmail.com>> wrote:
Gary,
Do you not understand humor?
GetTypeApp for Android<http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=14554>;
On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <
yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>;@groups.io
target=_blank>gary.k7ek=<mailto:gary.k7ek=>yahoo.com
<http://yahoo.com/>;@groups.io> wrote:<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Frank,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does
not know what he is talking about.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be
at the computer to initiate contacts<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
and to respond according to what the other station sends.
There is nothing automatic about it.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make
the job a lot easier but the op<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would
like to really become knowledgeable
about<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/
wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently
afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8
gets<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
attacked. That is sad, indeed.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Best regards,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Gary, K7EK<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
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40m PSK is on 7070
20m PSK is on 14070
Not sure about the rest
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 3/17/2019 5:50 PM, Jim Parks wrote:
Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000 FT* contacts so far.
73
Jim Parks NY0J
*From:* main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Speltz
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM
*To:* main@4SQRP.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.
David KB1PJ
On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@gmail.com
<mailto:jim.ny0j@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50
years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the
typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo
in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again.
Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal”
antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece
of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio
equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise
I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak
CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard
these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I
downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14
months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and
have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35
DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the
“conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept
one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how
broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag
chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is
that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might
just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new
tricks as long as he has an open mind!!!
73
Jim Parks NY0J
*From:*main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io><main@4SQRP.groups.io
<mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io>>*On Behalf Of*Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
*Sent:*Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
*To:*main@4sqrp.groups.io <mailto:main@4sqrp.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon
Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly
attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking
time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult
to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I
use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that
don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that
do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes
personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in
perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode.
Soapbox off.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
Radcliff, KY (EM77at)
Sent fromBlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=14562>;
On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@gmail.com
<mailto:dwbrayton@gmail.com>> wrote:
Gary,
Do you not understand humor?
GetTypeApp for Android<http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=14554>;
On Mar 15, 2019, at 23:39, "Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io" <
yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>;@groups.io
target=_blank>gary.k7ek=<mailto:gary.k7ek=>yahoo.com
<http://yahoo.com/>;@groups.io> wrote:<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Frank,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does
not know what he is talking about.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be
at the computer to initiate contacts<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
and to respond according to what the other station sends.
There is nothing automatic about it.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make
the job a lot easier but the op<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
must still be there throughout the contact. If you would
like to really become knowledgeable about<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
FT8 (and other JT modes), please peruse this link:
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.1.html.<;mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently
afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8
gets<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
attacked. That is sad, indeed.<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Best regards,<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
Gary, K7EK<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
<mailto:gary.k7ek=>
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Dave, what are the “watering hole” frequencies for PSK. I want to try that using FLDIGI. I use it for regular RTTY and have pretty well mastered it so it is time to try something new. BTW, I up to over 3000 FT* contacts so far. 73 Jim Parks NY0J
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Speltz Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:44 PM To: main@4SQRP.groups.io Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time. David KB1PJ
On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks <jim.ny0j@...> wrote: Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!! Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off. Do you not understand humor?
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FT8 is rather remarkable and in a few short weeks I had worked the Falklands, WAS, etc etc on a nine foot vertical all from NH. However, I really do find PSK, which tends to have the same robust characteristics, more interesting since it is keyboard to keyboard talking other that watching the robot do its work. I am sure I will be back to FT8 now and then, but after maybe 1000 contacts, there is so much more to do and so little time.
On Mar 17, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Jim Parks < jim.ny0j@...> wrote:
Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!! 73 Jim Parks NY0J Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off. Do you not understand humor?
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Here is my experience with FT8. I have been a ham for nearly 50 years and had been inactive for the past 20 years due to the typical excuses, job, family etc. I retired and moved into a condo in Branson MO and decided to become an active ham again. Unfortunately, due to very restrictive HOA regulations a “normal” antenna was out of the question. I did have, however, a 18’ piece of downspout right outside the room where I could put my radio equipment. I jury rigged an antenna out of it, but to no surprise I heard virtually nothing in the way of SSB signals and a few weak CW signals. One day while tuning around on 40m near 7.074 I heard these strange musical tones. Asking around, I discovered FT8. I downloaded the software and learned to use it. In the past 14 months, using this amazing weak-signal mode, I have worked, and have confirmed 49 states on 5 bands and have confirmed over 35 DXCC entities. I would NEVER have been able to do this using the “conventional” modes. This reenergized me in ham radio and kept one old him active. I think this is just an example of just how broad this hobby is. There is something for everybody from 75m rag chewers to 10GHZ moon bounce communicators. I guess my feeling is that you don’t knock it until you have at least tried it. It might just be the right thing for you. You CAN trach an old dog new tricks as long as he has an open mind!!! 73 Jim Parks NY0J
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] DMR at Ozarkcon Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off. On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton <dwbrayton@...> wrote: Do you not understand humor?
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Re: Learning KiCad at Ozarkcon
Walter - K5EST
Hi Tim,
Saturday 1:30 - 3:00 PM 3D printers & KiCad Bring laptops to follow Barry Buelow - WØIY
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:02 AM Tim McDonough N9PUZ < tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
Walter,
When are the KiCAD sessions to be held?
Tim N9PUZ
On 3/14/2019 1:10 PM, Walter - K5EST
wrote:
Hi Everyone, at
Ozarkcon this year is a really great chance to learn how to
use
KiCad for making professional PCB layouts and 3D printing
for your cabinets for radio gear!
KiCad works for SMD or THT components, ground planes, and
lots of other great features. KiCad is as easy to use for
schematic capture, PCB layout and it even gives a 3D rendering
of the assembled board. PCB are easy to order direct from
China. Download KiCad (see below) and bring along your pc;
we'll work on a project together.
KiCad now has a push and shove router which is capable of
routing differential pairs and interactively.
tuning trace lengths.
3D printing is a very cool new technology that kids are
learning in middle and high school to make small cabinets,
paddles for keyers, etc. Download and install FreeCad to
follow along. Working with 3D is not as difficult at you
think.
Barry Buelow - WØIY has 2 time sections of learning this
great software for
us at Ozarkcon. Bring your laptops to follow along
with the presentations.
What computer OS do you use? Can I use my computer?
AND for you Chromebook owners, yes it is possible to run
KiCad,
Will KiCad get me away from dead-bug construction? Well,
it sure has
a good chance of me changing my ancient ways :-)
See you all at Branson.......it's gonna be fun!
Walter
Dufrain -
K5EST -
Coordinator
OzarkCon 2019
An
ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
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Re: Learning KiCad at Ozarkcon
Walter,
When are the KiCAD sessions to be held?
Tim N9PUZ
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On 3/14/2019 1:10 PM, Walter - K5EST
wrote:
Hi Everyone, at
Ozarkcon this year is a really great chance to learn how to
use
KiCad for making professional PCB layouts and 3D printing
for your cabinets for radio gear!
KiCad works for SMD or THT components, ground planes, and
lots of other great features. KiCad is as easy to use for
schematic capture, PCB layout and it even gives a 3D rendering
of the assembled board. PCB are easy to order direct from
China. Download KiCad (see below) and bring along your pc;
we'll work on a project together.
KiCad now has a push and shove router which is capable of
routing differential pairs and interactively.
tuning trace lengths.
3D printing is a very cool new technology that kids are
learning in middle and high school to make small cabinets,
paddles for keyers, etc. Download and install FreeCad to
follow along. Working with 3D is not as difficult at you
think.
Barry Buelow - WØIY has 2 time sections of learning this
great software for
us at Ozarkcon. Bring your laptops to follow along
with the presentations.
What computer OS do you use? Can I use my computer?
AND for you Chromebook owners, yes it is possible to run
KiCad,
Will KiCad get me away from dead-bug construction? Well,
it sure has
a good chance of me changing my ancient ways :-)
See you all at Branson.......it's gonna be fun!
Walter
Dufrain -
K5EST -
Coordinator
OzarkCon 2019
An
ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
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MODERATOR NOTE: DMR at Ozarkcon
Please remember to keep these discussions "family friendly" and do not go in for personal attacks and mean spirited behavior.
I know it's been a long winter for many of us and we're all wishing Ozarkcon was here. Just keep things friendly please.
72/73,
Tim N9PUZ
4SQRP List Co-Moderator
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Re: Extraordinary dining at College of the Ozarks, on break from Ozarkcon
The Keeter Center dining room at Collage of the Ozarks has a wonderful Sunday brunch in addition to their normal great fine dining. The service is exceptional and the food is fantastic. A lot of it is produced on the College farm where students work. Also their home-made ice cream is the best. As a Branson resident, I can highly recommend both locations for great fine dining. 73 Jim Parks NY0J The other excellent fine dining establishment is the dining room at the Chateau on the Lake hotel. Pricy but excellent.
From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Brown
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:02 AM
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: [4SQRP] Extraordinary dining at College of the Ozarks, on break from Ozarkcon All,
The College of the Ozarks is just south of Branson and its students are all on a
work/study full scholarships. None of these students pay tuition. More than a few students work 15 hrs/wk in their school's dining facility "on scholarship."
https://www.keetercenter.edu/Dining.aspx
Larry, NS4Q, and I will be seeking this place out again for fine dining at every opportunity.
We split the "smoked prime rib" and pay a small charge for extra veggies for dinner.
Lunch is a little "lighter."
Hope to see you there!
72/73,
Jerry N4EO, ex-YI9EO, ex-HL9EO
PS- I am a MIZZOU alumnus (MSEE- '70))
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Extraordinary dining at College of the Ozarks, on break from Ozarkcon
All,
The College of the Ozarks is just south of Branson and its students are all on a
work/study full scholarships. None of these students pay tuition.
More than a few students work 15 hrs/wk in their school's dining facility "on scholarship."
https://www.keetercenter.edu/Dining.aspx
Larry, NS4Q, and I will be seeking this place out again for fine dining at every opportunity.
We split the "smoked prime rib" and pay a small charge for extra veggies for dinner.
Lunch is a little "lighter."
Hope to see you there!
72/73,
Jerry N4EO, ex-YI9EO, ex-HL9EO
PS- I am a MIZZOU alumnus (MSEE- '70))
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Frank Perkins <N6CES.r@...>
Gary, Kentucky is beautiful. If you get a chance, go North on 31W a little ways to West Point. As a teenager, I spent time there with my grandfather who lived about 2 blocks from the river. I was born and raised in Lexington. Small world. Frank N6CES
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 9:41 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
Radcliff, KY (EM77at)
On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary,
Do you not understand humor?
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Yes, of course, however there is a mentality afoot that repeatedly attacks FT8 (and other things they don't understand, not taking time to get the facts). This is quite rampant and it's difficult to separate the humor from the haters. Sorry if I overreacted. I use FT8 quite regularly and find it quite awesome. For those that don't support FT8 or other modes, please don't belittle those that do. I am sure that is reciprocal in that each amateur makes personal choices. Check out FT8. You will like it. FT8 fits in perfectly for QRP and QRPp work as it is a weak signal mode. Soapbox off.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
Radcliff, KY (EM77at)
On Mar 16, 2019, at 09:36, Duane Brayton < dwbrayton@...> wrote:
Gary,
Do you not understand humor?
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Frank Having just retired as an IT Manager and been involved with networks, government radio systems and cellphones, I see a lot of truth in which you write. Having been a ham operator since 1957, I have witnessed many operating system changes. I don’t see to much fairy dust in your writing. Case in point, Echo Link (networking), the J Modes, FT8, once again computer networking(my thoughts) and we now have cellphones that are also being used as 2 meter/440 transceivers. Your writing was very clever. I have a camera that sometimes makes telephone calls ( i7 Plus)
On Mar 16, 2019, at 1:36 PM, jleahy00 via Groups.Io < jleahy00@...> wrote: I thought Frank’s definition so funny I sent it out to the 3 local clubs that I belong to..... believe it or not some thought Frank was serious !
It is close though ?
John KK4ITX If you need a parachute and don't have one you probably won't need one again. On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:32, Frank Perkins < N6CES.r@...> wrote: Good morning Gary, I was just joking around while sorting out all the wire jumpers in my rigblaster duo. I thought I'd thrown enough fairy dust in my story to make it funny, but not believable. Maybe not. Frank
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:35 AM Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin
On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST < walter.k5est@...> wrote:
Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the other end of the QSO.
This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?
Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?
Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun will not bother my transmissions :-)
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Frank,
FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about. I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it. There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets attacked. That is sad, indeed.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
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John - KK4ITX
I thought Frank’s definition so funny I sent it out to the 3 local clubs that I belong to..... believe it or not some thought Frank was serious !
It is close though ?
John KK4ITX If you need a parachute and don't have one you probably won't need one again.
On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:32, Frank Perkins < N6CES.r@...> wrote: Good morning Gary, I was just joking around while sorting out all the wire jumpers in my rigblaster duo. I thought I'd thrown enough fairy dust in my story to make it funny, but not believable. Maybe not. Frank
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:35 AM Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin
On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST < walter.k5est@...> wrote:
Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the other end of the QSO.
This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?
Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?
Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun will not bother my transmissions :-)
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Frank,
FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about. I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it. There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets attacked. That is sad, indeed.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
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Frank Perkins <N6CES.r@...>
Good morning Gary, I was just joking around while sorting out all the wire jumpers in my rigblaster duo. I thought I'd thrown enough fairy dust in my story to make it funny, but not believable. Maybe not. Frank
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:35 AM Brian Crittendon via Groups.Io <aaa5mi= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin
On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST < walter.k5est@...> wrote:
Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the other end of the QSO.
This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?
Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?
Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun will not bother my transmissions :-)
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Frank,
FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about. I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it. There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets attacked. That is sad, indeed.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
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Maybe we should all have plans to make a spark gap transmitter for the day the space aliens come and use EMP to shut us down. Like in the movies. Grin
On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 2:25:25 AM EDT, Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@...> wrote:
Well now I have a little radio in the works.....some call a SOB (shack on a belt) and it also has a do-dad that tells me where I be at.......well I paid $200 bucks to have a thing tell me where I am AT.......sheesh! It oughta have a deal that can read my mind (the clean thoughts anyway) and talk to whoever is on the other end of the QSO.
This thing, SOB, don't even have a hose connect to use my straight key or Bug. It also don't do that FT8 deal, guess cuz their ain't no keyboard. I miss RTTY and wonder where it ran off to?
Ham Radio is just not movin forward but now sideways.......yup, very soon newbies can just jump in the InteruptNet and get their Ham license. Now, ain't that where loosing control that made the CB thing gone sideways?
Maybe it's time to clean the contacts on the Spark transmitter so the sun will not bother my transmissions :-)
Walter Dufrain - K5EST - Coordinator OzarkCon 2019 An ARRL approved Specialty Operating Convention
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:39 PM Gary Kohtala via Groups.Io <gary.k7ek= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Frank,
FT8 does not work like that. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about. I use FT8 almost daily. In all cases an operator must be at the computer to initiate contacts and to respond according to what the other station sends. There is nothing automatic about it. There are programmable scripts similar to macros that make the job a lot easier but the op must still be there throughout the contact. If you would like to really become knowledgeable about Whoever gave you that explanation of FT8 is apparently afraid of something that he does not understand it, so FT8 gets attacked. That is sad, indeed.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
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