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Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets - Wed, 9/5/18 8:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder:
Wednesday Evening 40 and 80 meter Nets

When:
Wednesday, 5 September 2018
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-05:00) America/Chicago

Where:
40 and 80 Meters

Description:
The 40 Meter Net will be at 8:00 pm central or 0100 UTC on 7.122 +-.
NCS will be Bill KV6Z.

Wednesday evening 80 Meter CW Net. will be at 0130 UTC Thursday (8:30PM Central Time Wednesday). 
The net will be called on 3.564 MHz +/- QRM.



Net control operators are Johnny AC0BQ or Paul N0NBD.

View Event.


Re: Hello :) I have questions PCB printing

Rob <roomberg@...>
 

My take on the PCB printing at home was that much of how we get to play with ham radio
is based on specialty equipment not sold around the corner.

Something as simple as a 1N34A in a simple crystal radio schematic was always an unobtainable item.
I couldn't even buy a tuning capacitor in any store withing a 10 mile radius of where I am sitting.

So when I looked into how to make a PCB I was very happy to identify simple hydrogen peroxide
from the drug store and muriatic acid from the hardware store where available dirt cheap and
easy enough to work with safely.

My first $4 quart of muriatic acid lasted year.
I never even considered the shelf life of the hydrogen peroxide.
Sure it gets weaker in time but seriously..... why care?
It cost $3 and there is more a block away at the market.

The other chemical involved here is pure ACETONE used to clean the before before
printing on it and then later to remove the etch resistant toner.

NAIL POLISH REMOVER has all sorts of crap in it that sticks to the copper so use 100 percent acetone....
sometime called professional nail polish remover.

I started etching outside and when winter came I moved etching indoors and then concluded
that open windows with box fans blowing were unnecessary.
A simple low speed box fan was more than adequate to dissipate concentrated toxic fumes.
Noting my kitchen is a great room kitchen with much air flow from other areas of the house.
Not a 4 by 6ft closet size kitchen.

I bought a gallon of peroxide and a gallon of muriatic acid more than a year ago and they still
etch for me in 6 minutes.
http://www.learnmorsecode.com/SWRmeter/index.html

All I am saying here is that you can invest in specific products .....
pulsarprofxc.com PCB Fab-In-A-Box Kit $74.95
or
you can wing it with readily available materials.

And as far as WHICH printer to use goes......

all TONER is fine powder made of plastic that melts around 350 degrees Fahrenheit.
So what ever method you use to transfer from artwork to copper PCB should be able to match
what temperature your toner works at.

To make things even messier.... laminators.... the hardware of choice to perform that transfer.....
laminators run LOWER temperatures so you might have to modify your laminator to get UP
to your target toner transfer temperature.

Sooooo........ what we end up with is scores of web forums sharing their advice on how to
successfully do just that..... and advice on which laminator gets hot enough ....and which laminators
need mods.... and it gets complicated...... and lots of advice on which laser printer to buy......
been there....:
http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/index.html
and learned that my really "good" laminator had a nylon drive gear that exceeded its
melting temperature and turned to mush.

and then
I learned about hot plates and thermal mass and concluded that nothing could be simpler
and required nothing digital for control and completely removed the laminator from the equation.
http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/hotcakes.html

So.......
just GO FOR IT
do it cheap
and just do it.

You will not be disappointed with your home brewed PCB results.

It is the nature of the hobby of ham radio.... a century of home brewing radios......
from bailing wire and rolling wax paper and foil capacitors.....
and now.....
with mail order components that cost you pennies....
you CAN build anything you want with transistors and run on 9 volt batteries...
no matter how complicated a schematic looks.....
it really is still nothing more than a road map.

16Pcs 100mmx70mm Fiber Single Copper Clad Plated Laminate PCB Circuit Board
for $11.36
https://www.ebay.com/itm/232344774003


73 Rob KB3BYT

On 09/04/2018 06:31 AM, John Lonigro wrote:
If you don't want to buy a gallon of muriatic acid, you can also white vinegar and hydrogen peroxide (1:1). Sprinkle a little salt in the mixture. It's slower than ferric chloride but works. Since it etches copper, you still want to be careful. These chemicals will etch the chrome finish from your sink drain (don't ask me how I know this). Note: Don't use that old bottle of hydrogen peroxide in your medicine cabinet. That stuff is unstable and gradually gets weaker until it's almost water. Buy fresh stuff (a buck or two).

You should also go to pulsarprofx.com for their take on making PCB's. They have 1/2 oz fiberglass PCB material that can be cut with a paper cutter and etches quicker (because it is thinner than 1 oz PCBs). They sell transfer paper that is a joy to use and takes very little (if any) touch-up with a Sharpie pen. They recommend using a laminator to do the transfer vs an iron. In my humble opinion, this is the way to go. I don't think the thinner copper is a problem unless you are building high power circuits, which probably wouldn't qualify as QRP anyway. If you want to be fancy, they sell material to put symbols and words on the non-copper side as well.

Don't forget the SSS is this coming Sunday. I know it conflicts with the Brutus Bash but it can't be helped.

72,

John, AA0VE


On 09/04/2018 12:45 AM, Patrick Kvitkauskas wrote:
I would recommend a Samsung printer if you go for a laser. The HP's are way to hot and iffy at best on
transferring to PCB. Thank Chuck Adams for that heads up as the Samsungs toner is of a lower temp
than most laser printers. And yes on the common pool muriatic acid (1 part) and hydrogen peroxide (2 parts)
for the etchant but do it outdoors. If you insist on ferric chloride drop me a line as I would be glad to give it
away for the price of shipping.

72 Pat
KD4OBQ


Re: Hello :) I have questions and am in need of the opinion from someo ne with more knowledge !

John Lonigro
 

If you don't want to buy a gallon of muriatic acid, you can also white vinegar and hydrogen peroxide (1:1). Sprinkle a little salt in the mixture.  It's slower than ferric chloride but works.  Since it etches copper, you still want to be careful.  These chemicals will etch the chrome finish from your sink drain (don't ask me how I know this).  Note:  Don't use that old bottle of hydrogen peroxide in your medicine cabinet.  That stuff is unstable and gradually gets weaker until it's almost water.  Buy fresh stuff (a buck or two).

You should also go to pulsarprofx.com for their take on making PCB's.  They have 1/2 oz fiberglass PCB material that can be cut with a paper cutter and etches quicker (because it is thinner than 1 oz PCBs).  They sell transfer paper that is a joy to use and takes very little (if any) touch-up with a Sharpie pen.  They recommend using a laminator to do the transfer vs an iron.  In my humble opinion, this is the way to go.  I don't think the thinner copper is a problem unless you are building high power circuits, which probably wouldn't qualify as QRP anyway.  If you want to be fancy, they sell material to put symbols and words on the non-copper side as well.

Don't forget the SSS is this coming Sunday.  I know it conflicts with the Brutus Bash but it can't be helped.

72,

John, AA0VE

On 09/04/2018 12:45 AM, Patrick Kvitkauskas wrote:
I would recommend a Samsung printer if you go for a laser. The HP's are way to hot and iffy at best on
transferring to PCB. Thank Chuck Adams for that heads up as the Samsungs toner is of a lower temp
than most laser printers. And yes on the common pool muriatic acid (1 part) and hydrogen peroxide (2 parts)
for the etchant but do it outdoors. If you insist on ferric chloride drop me a line as I would be glad to give it
away for the price of shipping.

72 Pat
KD4OBQ


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Celebrity Local
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Re: CQ Magazine

Milos Dermota
 

They are thiefs and money collectors. They took my money and they owe me several years of printed CQ Amateur Radio Magazines. Shame on them. Only lies and promises in their emails ….

 

73, Milos S57D

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io [mailto:main@4SQRP.groups.io] On Behalf Of davemrtn
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 8:17 PM
To: 4SQRP.groups.io
Subject: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine

 

Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??

--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


Re: Hello :) I have questions and am in need of the opinion from someo ne with more knowledge !

KD4OBQ
 

I would recommend a Samsung printer if you go for a laser. The HP's are way to hot and iffy at best on
transferring to PCB. Thank Chuck Adams for that heads up as the Samsungs toner is of a lower temp
than most laser printers. And yes on the common pool muriatic acid (1 part) and hydrogen peroxide (2 parts)
for the etchant but do it outdoors. If you insist on ferric chloride drop me a line as I would be glad to give it
away for the price of shipping.

72 Pat
KD4OBQ


____________________________________________________________
One Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy
Celebrity Local
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5b8e1c30b2c1c2f591cst01vuc


Re: CQ Magazine

John Wasciuk
 

Hi, Dave!

Thanks for the "thumbs up"! Welcome to Amateur Radio! Glad to know that you are learning CW. I am re-learning it.
Got my Novice in 1966. Got to 13 wpm for the General and Advanced licenses in the late 60's. Seems work has always interfered with radio! Now that I'm retired, I'm trying it again. On September 25, I will be 67, so this might be a hurdle. I'm thinking that I saw an article in the health section of (Gosh! Shall I admit I read it!??) the New York Times that says that older folks can grow new neural connections, too. Nice to think so.

Again, welcome to Amateur Radio. 

If you are looking for an inexpensive HF radio, keep watching the web site for "QRP Labs". Hans has some great kits on offer. Later on this fall, he will be coming out with a 10 watt HF transceiver kit for about $160. It will include its own test equipment to help you build it!

Take care and God Bless!

73,

John

WA8TON

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:50 PM Dave Somers <somersdave@...> wrote:

Right on John!

The art, science, and hobby will continue to evolve.

We should support it as it does, not lament the good old days...

BTW I am a fairly recent Ham  but have been through Level I and Level II of CW OPS Academy and am signed up for a redo of Level II.

Each of us has our own path and those paths continue to change and morph....




Dave
KI7DPP

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Wasciuk
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 7:22 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine

 

Hi,

 

For those who gripe that the loss of the code requirement has "dumbed ham radio down":

 

Gee, you mean a KWM-2 isn't an appliance? A Drake TR-4 isn't an appliance? A Swan 350 isn't an appliance? Shucks! A 75A-4 or an HRO-60 was less complicated than a lot of smart phone software or many computer games!

 

I remember a certain number of dumb people who got licenses fifty years ago, too. Of course, if you're not that bright, but you persevere and get the General (in the old days), that was commendable.

 

What is it with people who always think that a long time ago was the good old days? 

 

There were NO good old days. The problems now are just different.

 

73,

 

John

 

WA8TON

 

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:13 PM Bob Nelson via Groups.Io <rln37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

There was a time when we had QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio magazines.

That was back when you had to demonstrate at least minimal CW skills

to get a license.  Now all that has changed, and we are down to just QST and

CQ.  AND now the FCC has decided you only need to have "appliance operator"

skills to operate on the ham bands.

 

Back in the old days (when you had to demonstrate CW skills), many hams

built their own equipment, or at least a good part of it.  Now, when I go

to club meetings I find that 90% of those in attendance have practically NO

skills in electronics at all - true appliance operators.  And without the technical

skills that were taught in QST, CQ, etc, we have a situation where a LARGE

percentage of hams can't even diagnose problems with their "appliances",

much less repair them.

 

Now in my "old age", I feel very grateful for what ham radio has done for me,

since I discovered it existed at about age 12.  And it has been PLENTY.  I could tell

some true stories about how my knowledge of radio allowed me to make some

contributions to our country's safety when I was in the military (1959-1969) - 

contributions that assured the "mail would get thru", despite corruption at the

federal gov't level. 

 

The point is that to the extent to which ham radio gets "dumbed down", the

nation becomes less secure.  For example, look at ham radio's contribution at

times of natural and man-made emergencies.  But to the extent a ham can't keep

his equipment running in less than "normal conditions", the less valuable ham radio

becomes to the general public.

 

The FCC seems to have decided that ham radio licenses should be easier to

get, no matter what the overall skill levels of the new licensee might be.  We must

hope this new philosophy proves to be wise.  But I, for one, am not so sure.

Too many hams nowadays can't even read the color code on a resistor, much

less be able to keep their appliances operating when the going gets rough.

 

Having practically no $$, I salvaged old AM radios from the city dump to build my

first xmitter from an article in a 1952 issue of CQ.  Nowadays, there are no

articles like that in the remaining magazines.

 

So the times have changed.  And we have to hope it all works out for the better.

 

73 - Bob, K6KL

 

On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM CDT, davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:

 

 

Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??

--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

 

Right on John!

The art, science, and hobby will continue to evolve.

We should support it as it does, not lament the good old days...

BTW I am a fairly recent Ham  but have been through Level I and Level II of CW OPS Academy and am signed up for a redo of Level II.

Each of us has our own path and those paths continue to change and morph....




Dave
KI7DPP

 

 

 

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Wasciuk
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 7:22 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine

 

Hi,

 

For those who gripe that the loss of the code requirement has "dumbed ham radio down":

 

Gee, you mean a KWM-2 isn't an appliance? A Drake TR-4 isn't an appliance? A Swan 350 isn't an appliance? Shucks! A 75A-4 or an HRO-60 was less complicated than a lot of smart phone software or many computer games!

 

I remember a certain number of dumb people who got licenses fifty years ago, too. Of course, if you're not that bright, but you persevere and get the General (in the old days), that was commendable.

 

What is it with people who always think that a long time ago was the good old days? 

 

There were NO good old days. The problems now are just different.

 

73,

 

John

 

WA8TON

 

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:13 PM Bob Nelson via Groups.Io <rln37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

There was a time when we had QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio magazines.

That was back when you had to demonstrate at least minimal CW skills

to get a license.  Now all that has changed, and we are down to just QST and

CQ.  AND now the FCC has decided you only need to have "appliance operator"

skills to operate on the ham bands.

 

Back in the old days (when you had to demonstrate CW skills), many hams

built their own equipment, or at least a good part of it.  Now, when I go

to club meetings I find that 90% of those in attendance have practically NO

skills in electronics at all - true appliance operators.  And without the technical

skills that were taught in QST, CQ, etc, we have a situation where a LARGE

percentage of hams can't even diagnose problems with their "appliances",

much less repair them.

 

Now in my "old age", I feel very grateful for what ham radio has done for me,

since I discovered it existed at about age 12.  And it has been PLENTY.  I could tell

some true stories about how my knowledge of radio allowed me to make some

contributions to our country's safety when I was in the military (1959-1969) - 

contributions that assured the "mail would get thru", despite corruption at the

federal gov't level. 

 

The point is that to the extent to which ham radio gets "dumbed down", the

nation becomes less secure.  For example, look at ham radio's contribution at

times of natural and man-made emergencies.  But to the extent a ham can't keep

his equipment running in less than "normal conditions", the less valuable ham radio

becomes to the general public.

 

The FCC seems to have decided that ham radio licenses should be easier to

get, no matter what the overall skill levels of the new licensee might be.  We must

hope this new philosophy proves to be wise.  But I, for one, am not so sure.

Too many hams nowadays can't even read the color code on a resistor, much

less be able to keep their appliances operating when the going gets rough.

 

Having practically no $$, I salvaged old AM radios from the city dump to build my

first xmitter from an article in a 1952 issue of CQ.  Nowadays, there are no

articles like that in the remaining magazines.

 

So the times have changed.  And we have to hope it all works out for the better.

 

73 - Bob, K6KL

 

On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM CDT, davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:

 

 

Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??

--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


locked #ADMIN CQ Magazine Thread #ADMIN

Tim McDonough
 

Folks, we are a friendly group here at 4SQRP. Please do NOT insult or attack another member, criticize their writing styles, etc.

We probably know by now that the print version of CQ Magazine has some delivery issues. If you have are a subscriber and have a concern the advice several have offered which is to contact the magazine itself is probably the most appropriate course of action. To my knowledge the publishers of CQ do not read this list. 

We should probably move on to other more interesting topics.

73,

Tim N9PUZ
42QRP List Co-Moderator 


Re: CQ Magazine

John Wasciuk
 

Hi,

For those who gripe that the loss of the code requirement has "dumbed ham radio down":

Gee, you mean a KWM-2 isn't an appliance? A Drake TR-4 isn't an appliance? A Swan 350 isn't an appliance? Shucks! A 75A-4 or an HRO-60 was less complicated than a lot of smart phone software or many computer games!

I remember a certain number of dumb people who got licenses fifty years ago, too. Of course, if you're not that bright, but you persevere and get the General (in the old days), that was commendable.

What is it with people who always think that a long time ago was the good old days? 

There were NO good old days. The problems now are just different.

73,

John

WA8TON

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:13 PM Bob Nelson via Groups.Io <rln37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
There was a time when we had QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio magazines.
That was back when you had to demonstrate at least minimal CW skills
to get a license.  Now all that has changed, and we are down to just QST and
CQ.  AND now the FCC has decided you only need to have "appliance operator"
skills to operate on the ham bands.

Back in the old days (when you had to demonstrate CW skills), many hams
built their own equipment, or at least a good part of it.  Now, when I go
to club meetings I find that 90% of those in attendance have practically NO
skills in electronics at all - true appliance operators.  And without the technical
skills that were taught in QST, CQ, etc, we have a situation where a LARGE
percentage of hams can't even diagnose problems with their "appliances",
much less repair them.

Now in my "old age", I feel very grateful for what ham radio has done for me,
since I discovered it existed at about age 12.  And it has been PLENTY.  I could tell
some true stories about how my knowledge of radio allowed me to make some
contributions to our country's safety when I was in the military (1959-1969) - 
contributions that assured the "mail would get thru", despite corruption at the
federal gov't level. 

The point is that to the extent to which ham radio gets "dumbed down", the
nation becomes less secure.  For example, look at ham radio's contribution at
times of natural and man-made emergencies.  But to the extent a ham can't keep
his equipment running in less than "normal conditions", the less valuable ham radio
becomes to the general public.

The FCC seems to have decided that ham radio licenses should be easier to
get, no matter what the overall skill levels of the new licensee might be.  We must
hope this new philosophy proves to be wise.  But I, for one, am not so sure.
Too many hams nowadays can't even read the color code on a resistor, much
less be able to keep their appliances operating when the going gets rough.

Having practically no $$, I salvaged old AM radios from the city dump to build my
first xmitter from an article in a 1952 issue of CQ.  Nowadays, there are no
articles like that in the remaining magazines.

So the times have changed.  And we have to hope it all works out for the better.

73 - Bob, K6KL

On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM CDT, davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:


Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??
--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

ussv dharma
 

I like CQ and if it were not for the qsl buro I would not b a member of ARRL.

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
MSGT. Susan Meckley, USA (Ret.)
W7KFI  & AFZ4SM
 

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 9/3/18, John Wasciuk <jwasciuk@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io, "QRP-L Mailing List" <qrp-l@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 8:05 PM

Hello, 4SQRP, (AGAIN!)
Please, please, please don't turn your anger
at the paper delivery of CQ toward the magazine itself.
Please don't make a self-fulfilling prophecy into the
demise of the mag that helped start the OSCAR
program!
CQ is our only independent
publication.
Remember in the 70's and 80's when we had
four national publications? Things are different now.

In case you have not read my previous post, ALL
print media are struggling to one degree or
another.
How many daily city newspapers in how many cities
have folded or gone to publishing just a few times a week?
Here in Michigan, the Detroit Free Press merged with the
only other major daily. Now they are a shadow of what they
were. The Grand Rapids Press is only printed a few days a
week. Ditto for the Ann Arbor News here.
The business section of one major paper recently
ran an article on how one publishing house sold all of its
titles but the several flagship publications that still were
not hemigering money.
It may come as a surprise to those of you out
there but ham radio publishing and ham radio sales are a
very, very difficult market. 
How many of you can think back more than half a
century ago when AES was the king of the traders? Well, what
happened to them?
CQ puts out a fine product. It is every bit as
good as QST and might even beat it at some
things.
If they are struggling, they are not
alone.
Remember when Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, predicted the
eventual demise of paper printing in the coming age of
digital media transmission? Ol' Wayne sure knew how to
write those "Never Say Die" editorials to drum up
sales, but he was right on this point, at least!
CQ is doing OK with probably is a minimal
staff.
When my Zinio digital subscription did not show
up for three months, the nice woman on the other end of the
phone line at CQ added three months to my one year
subscription.
I get the digital issues and the end-of-the -year
ARRL CD for the cost of having gotten QEX in the mail (late,
too, unless you wanted to fork out extra for first class
mail).
Well, that's my two cents...
73,
John Wasciuk 
WA8TON / VO1TON / VO1HV 




On Mon,
Sep 3, 2018, 18:47 cornhusker via Groups.Io
<cornhusker=yahoo.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Dave,I have
been writing my Kit Building column for CQ Magazine monthly
for the past 9 years.  To be honest, I don't know why
there has been a persistent lateness in the delivery of the
print edition of the magazine.  Whatever the reason, they
do not share that information with those of us who write for
CQ.  Nor am I responsible for the CQ contests, and any of
their attendant controversies.  (yes, I do hear about both
at hamfests!)  The digital version available through Zinio
continues to be made available at the first of the month. 
I, too, get my print copy as late as anybody else and get
the digital version on Zinio always on time.  For those
wanting the digital version, I have found the best solution
is to view it on a PC or on an iPad.  My iPad displays it
clearly and quickly and lets me zoom in to see more detail
in the photos than is available in the print edition.  I
can keep many issues stored on my tablet and can go back and
read them while traveling, etc.  The digital edition is
less expensive than print, and with many print magazines
going away, the digital medium is one we hams can embrace,
since we are a technically minded community.  Yes, by all
means, contact the magazine offices.  But, please do not
blame those of us who have worked diligently to produce what
is still a very popular and vital product for the amateur
radio community.  Over the years, I have reviewed and
supported ALL of the Four State kits in my column as well as
mentioning Ozarkcon several times, and the kitters can
attest to this.  At least try the digital version and see
how it works for you.  The newer Zinio software lets you
either view it just as it appears in print, or view text
only in an easy to read font.  In the text mode, it
displays the text big enough to easily read on my smartphone
and still displays the photos in a way they can be enlarged
as well.  I won't debate the relative value between QST
and CQ.  Both publications have their strengths and
weaknesses.  But having the choice of two major
publications is healthy for amateur radio and must
continue.  I am a life member of ARRL and also write for
the ARRL Handbook.  We need to support both publications
through our membership in ARRL and our subscription to CQ as
well as other specialty publications for amateur radio. 
ARRL is also grappling with the high cost of publishing
magazines and books in print form.  It is the same with
every publisher.   Look at how popular Kindles are.  We
thought SSB was just a fad, and that AM would continue to be
the dominant mode for HF phone.  We thought digital was
just a niche mode and now FT8, a mode designed for QRP, has
pretty much dominated HF communications and helped boost
activity on 6M and other bands we assumed were dead.  We as
QRP operators and kit builders should be open to at least
trying digital magazine delivery and embrace the new
technology.  Finally, as I have said years ago, I am not
Dave Ingram.  I was as upset as many other hams when I
heard of the sudden passing of W4TWJ a few years ago.  I
don't have his talents in circuit design but I share his
enthusiasm for Amateur radio.  He was indeed a big part of
CQ.  I will do my best to keep my columns interesting and
educational and keep kit building as well as QRP alive. 
After all, that is what the Four State QRP Group is all
about.73 de K0NEBJoe
EisenbergKit Building Editor, CQ
Magazine





On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM
CDT, davemrtn <davemrtn@centurytel.net>
wrote:










Is CQ Magazine faltering ?
This last Friday, 08/31/18, I
received the August issue.
How many other people are
receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?
Has anyone received the September
issue ??
--


David Martin - NA1MH
- Mountain Home, Ar.
-----------------------------------------

Wherever I go, there He is.

Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair

>Professional Sports - An activity for small
minds<

!! There is a reason it is called "Sports
Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

ussv dharma
 

I traveled for 23 months in a motor home with a kenwood tube type with 6146 finals in it...no problem. In fact that over 20 years ago and I recently got msg from ham that bought the rig and found my call sign inside of it.

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
MSGT. Susan Meckley, USA (Ret.)
W7KFI  & AFZ4SM
 

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 9/3/18, David Lininger <kb0zke@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 7:57 PM

"Too many hams nowadays can't even read the
color code on a resistor"...
Of course, some of us have enough
trouble even SEEING the color codes on
resistors. <grin> And then there
are those tiny surface mount things.

For a couple of years now I've been
thinking about whether or not it
would make sense for me to learn a bit
about tube circuitry, given that
we live full-time in our motor home and
travel a good bit. Tube
equipment is heavy and takes up a lot
of space. Motor homes don't like
the extra weight and there isn't a lot
of extra space. Tube equipment
doesn't like lots of vibration, and an
rv has been called a rolling
earthquake.



On 3/9/18 18:13, Bob Nelson via
Groups.Io wrote:
> There was a time when we had QST,
CQ, 73 and Ham Radio magazines.
> That was back when you had to
demonstrate at least minimal CW skills
> to get a license.  Now all that
has changed, and we are down to just QST
> and
> CQ.  AND now the FCC has decided
you only need to have "appliance operator"
> skills to operate on the ham
bands.
>
> Back in the old days (when you had
to demonstrate CW skills), many hams
> built their own equipment, or at
least a good part of it.  Now, when I go
> to club meetings I find that 90%
of those in attendance have practically NO
> skills in electronics at all -
true appliance operators.  And without
> the technical
> skills that were taught in QST,
CQ, etc, we have a situation where a LARGE
> percentage of hams can't even
diagnose problems with their "appliances",
> much less repair them.
>
> Now in my "old age", I feel very
grateful for what ham radio has done
> for me,
> since I discovered it existed at
about age 12.  And it has been PLENTY. 
> I could tell
> some true stories about how my
knowledge of radio allowed me to make some
> contributions to our country's
safety when I was in the military
> (1959-1969) - 
> contributions that assured the
"mail would get thru", despite corruption
> at the
> federal gov't level. 
>
> The point is that to the extent to
which ham radio gets "dumbed down", the
> nation becomes less secure.  For
example, look at ham radio's
> contribution at
> times of natural and man-made
emergencies.  But to the extent a ham
> can't keep
> his equipment running in less than
"normal conditions", the less
> valuable ham radio
> becomes to the general public.
>
> The FCC seems to have decided that
ham radio licenses should be easier to
> get, no matter what the overall
skill levels of the new licensee might
> be.  We must
> hope this new philosophy proves to
be wise.  But I, for one, am not so
> sure.
> Too many hams nowadays can't even
read the color code on a resistor, much
> less be able to keep their
appliances operating when the going gets rough.
>
> Having practically no $$, I
salvaged old AM radios from the city dump to
> build my
> first xmitter from an article in a
1952 issue of CQ.  Nowadays, there
> are no
> articles like that in the
remaining magazines.
>
> So the times have changed.  And
we have to hope it all works out for the
> better.
>
> 73 - Bob, K6KL
>
> On Monday, September 3, 2018,
1:16:46 PM CDT, davemrtn
> <davemrtn@centurytel.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Is CQ Magazine faltering ?
>
> This last Friday, 08/31/18, I
received the August issue.
>
> How many other people are
receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?
>
> Has anyone received the September
issue ??
> --
> David Martin - NA1MH <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/na1mh> - Mountain Home,
> Ar.
-----------------------------------------
> Wherever I go, there He is.
> Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose,
Repair
>>Professional Sports - An
activity for small minds<
> !! There is a reason it is called
"Sports Trivia" !!
>

--
David Lininger, kb0zke
Rev. 2:10
kb0zke@gmail.com


Re: CQ Magazine

David B Rogers
 

Everything John said. I get the digital edition of CQ, read it on an iPad and very much enjoy it. It arrives on schedule every month. I am also a 45+ year ARRL member WHO JUST RENEWED FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS.  The nice thing about digital is that they do not pile up in a corner of the Shack. HI!

David, WA7ZYQ

 C’est la vie, c’est la guerre,  vive la salade de pommes de terre.

On Sep 3, 2018, at 12:54 PM, John Wasciuk <jwasciuk@...> wrote:

Hello, 4SQRP Group! (and QRP-L)
I get the digital edition of CQ. Just got the September issue on Saturday, September 1st. 

I am not complaining at all. Why do I see so many people complaining about CQ? Don't let its demise become a self-fulfilling prophesy!!!! What century are you in? Don't you realize that ALL printed periodicals are in trouble? How many cities around the US no longer have a daily edition of the local paper? 
Guess What! We live in the Internet age! That is with all of its greatness and its awful ability to convince fools of anything!

Here's what I did: I use to subscribe to that monthly magazine that was where all of the technical articles in QST used to be published in when academics and engineers subscribed to QST. Well, I decided that for fifty bucks, I could get the digital issues of CQ and then get the ARRL CD of QEX (and all the other magazines) for the price I paid to have QEX delivered via snail-mail.
PLEASE NOTE: I am still an ARRL member and will always be an ARRL member.
I think the articles in CQ are a great addition to my ham radio reading. Get the digital edition that avoids the vagaries of the mail system and get the end-of-year ARRL CD for QEX. You can't go wrong!

73,

John
WA8TON / VO1TON / VO1HV


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Re: CQ Magazine

John Wasciuk
 

Hello, 4SQRP Group! (and QRP-L)
I get the digital edition of CQ. Just got the September issue on Saturday, September 1st. 

I am not complaining at all. Why do I see so many people complaining about CQ? Don't let its demise become a self-fulfilling prophesy!!!! What century are you in? Don't you realize that ALL printed periodicals are in trouble? How many cities around the US no longer have a daily edition of the local paper? 
Guess What! We live in the Internet age! That is with all of its greatness and its awful ability to convince fools of anything!

Here's what I did: I use to subscribe to that monthly magazine that was where all of the technical articles in QST used to be published in when academics and engineers subscribed to QST. Well, I decided that for fifty bucks, I could get the digital issues of CQ and then get the ARRL CD of QEX (and all the other magazines) for the price I paid to have QEX delivered via snail-mail.
PLEASE NOTE: I am still an ARRL member and will always be an ARRL member.
I think the articles in CQ are a great addition to my ham radio reading. Get the digital edition that avoids the vagaries of the mail system and get the end-of-year ARRL CD for QEX. You can't go wrong!

73,

John
WA8TON / VO1TON / VO1HV

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:16 PM davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:

Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??
--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

John Wasciuk
 

Hello, 4SQRP, (AGAIN!)

Please, please, please don't turn your anger at the paper delivery of CQ toward the magazine itself. Please don't make a self-fulfilling prophecy into the demise of the mag that helped start the OSCAR program!

CQ is our only independent publication.

Remember in the 70's and 80's when we had four national publications? Things are different now.

In case you have not read my previous post, ALL print media are struggling to one degree or another.

How many daily city newspapers in how many cities have folded or gone to publishing just a few times a week? Here in Michigan, the Detroit Free Press merged with the only other major daily. Now they are a shadow of what they were. The Grand Rapids Press is only printed a few days a week. Ditto for the Ann Arbor News here.

The business section of one major paper recently ran an article on how one publishing house sold all of its titles but the several flagship publications that still were not hemigering money.

It may come as a surprise to those of you out there but ham radio publishing and ham radio sales are a very, very difficult market. 

How many of you can think back more than half a century ago when AES was the king of the traders? Well, what happened to them?

CQ puts out a fine product. It is every bit as good as QST and might even beat it at some things.

If they are struggling, they are not alone.

Remember when Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, predicted the eventual demise of paper printing in the coming age of digital media transmission? Ol' Wayne sure knew how to write those "Never Say Die" editorials to drum up sales, but he was right on this point, at least!

CQ is doing OK with probably is a minimal staff.

When my Zinio digital subscription did not show up for three months, the nice woman on the other end of the phone line at CQ added three months to my one year subscription.

I get the digital issues and the end-of-the -year ARRL CD for the cost of having gotten QEX in the mail (late, too, unless you wanted to fork out extra for first class mail).

Well, that's my two cents...

73,

John Wasciuk 

WA8TON / VO1TON / VO1HV 





On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 18:47 cornhusker via Groups.Io <cornhusker=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dave,
I have been writing my Kit Building column for CQ Magazine monthly for the past 9 years.  To be honest, I don't know why there has been a persistent lateness in the delivery of the print edition of the magazine.  Whatever the reason, they do not share that information with those of us who write for CQ.  Nor am I responsible for the CQ contests, and any of their attendant controversies.  (yes, I do hear about both at hamfests!)  The digital version available through Zinio continues to be made available at the first of the month.  I, too, get my print copy as late as anybody else and get the digital version on Zinio always on time.  For those wanting the digital version, I have found the best solution is to view it on a PC or on an iPad.  My iPad displays it clearly and quickly and lets me zoom in to see more detail in the photos than is available in the print edition.  I can keep many issues stored on my tablet and can go back and read them while traveling, etc.  The digital edition is less expensive than print, and with many print magazines going away, the digital medium is one we hams can embrace, since we are a technically minded community.  Yes, by all means, contact the magazine offices.  But, please do not blame those of us who have worked diligently to produce what is still a very popular and vital product for the amateur radio community.  Over the years, I have reviewed and supported ALL of the Four State kits in my column as well as mentioning Ozarkcon several times, and the kitters can attest to this.  At least try the digital version and see how it works for you.  The newer Zinio software lets you either view it just as it appears in print, or view text only in an easy to read font.  In the text mode, it displays the text big enough to easily read on my smartphone and still displays the photos in a way they can be enlarged as well.  I won't debate the relative value between QST and CQ.  Both publications have their strengths and weaknesses.  But having the choice of two major publications is healthy for amateur radio and must continue.  I am a life member of ARRL and also write for the ARRL Handbook.  We need to support both publications through our membership in ARRL and our subscription to CQ as well as other specialty publications for amateur radio.  ARRL is also grappling with the high cost of publishing magazines and books in print form.  It is the same with every publisher.   Look at how popular Kindles are.  We thought SSB was just a fad, and that AM would continue to be the dominant mode for HF phone.  We thought digital was just a niche mode and now FT8, a mode designed for QRP, has pretty much dominated HF communications and helped boost activity on 6M and other bands we assumed were dead.  We as QRP operators and kit builders should be open to at least trying digital magazine delivery and embrace the new technology.  Finally, as I have said years ago, I am not Dave Ingram.  I was as upset as many other hams when I heard of the sudden passing of W4TWJ a few years ago.  I don't have his talents in circuit design but I share his enthusiasm for Amateur radio.  He was indeed a big part of CQ.  I will do my best to keep my columns interesting and educational and keep kit building as well as QRP alive.  After all, that is what the Four State QRP Group is all about.
73 de K0NEB
Joe Eisenberg
Kit Building Editor, CQ Magazine


On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM CDT, davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:


Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??
--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

 

* On 2018 03 Sep 18:17 -0500, Bob Nelson via Groups.Io wrote:
There was a time when we had QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio magazines.
That was back when you had to demonstrate at least minimal CW skills
to get a license.  Now all that has changed, and we are down to just QST and
CQ.  AND now the FCC has decided you only need to have "appliance operator"
skills to operate on the ham bands.
Bob, While I appreciate your opinion, I do think it is a bit of a
stretch to blame the loss of 73 and Ham Radio on the elimination of the
Morse exam. Per Wikipedia Ham Radio was bought by CQ in early 1990 (I
thought it was earlier than that) and the June 1990 issue was the last
issue was published. I seem to recall a claim that HR content would be
merged into CQ. I never received the promised subsequent CQ issues to
know. I did pick up a copy of CQ off the newsstand about a year later
and I didn't find anything of the old HR in it. It strikes me that CQ
bought HR merely to kill a competitor.

73 mostly existed as a result of Wayne Green's tenacity. When he could no
longer do it, it ceased to exist. Someone else could have picked it up,
but without his editorials it wasn't 73.

Something else to figure is this world-wide medium we now have to share
information and ideas. None of that has to pass editorial scrutiny, for
better or for worse. The 4SQRP files section and list archives are as
precious as any collection of technical articles found in the back
issues of magazines. Other ham radio groups, lists, blogs, and forums
all further our enjoyment of the hobby with an immediacy that magazines
cannot match. The magazines no longer are the medium of choice for
innovative hams, that honor now belongs to the Internet.

72/73, Nate, N0NB

--

"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."

Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB


Re: CQ Magazine

David Lininger
 

"Too many hams nowadays can't even read the color code on a resistor"...
Of course, some of us have enough trouble even SEEING the color codes on
resistors. <grin> And then there are those tiny surface mount things.

For a couple of years now I've been thinking about whether or not it
would make sense for me to learn a bit about tube circuitry, given that
we live full-time in our motor home and travel a good bit. Tube
equipment is heavy and takes up a lot of space. Motor homes don't like
the extra weight and there isn't a lot of extra space. Tube equipment
doesn't like lots of vibration, and an rv has been called a rolling
earthquake.

On 3/9/18 18:13, Bob Nelson via Groups.Io wrote:
There was a time when we had QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio magazines.
That was back when you had to demonstrate at least minimal CW skills
to get a license.  Now all that has changed, and we are down to just QST
and
CQ.  AND now the FCC has decided you only need to have "appliance operator"
skills to operate on the ham bands.

Back in the old days (when you had to demonstrate CW skills), many hams
built their own equipment, or at least a good part of it.  Now, when I go
to club meetings I find that 90% of those in attendance have practically NO
skills in electronics at all - true appliance operators.  And without
the technical
skills that were taught in QST, CQ, etc, we have a situation where a LARGE
percentage of hams can't even diagnose problems with their "appliances",
much less repair them.

Now in my "old age", I feel very grateful for what ham radio has done
for me,
since I discovered it existed at about age 12.  And it has been PLENTY. 
I could tell
some true stories about how my knowledge of radio allowed me to make some
contributions to our country's safety when I was in the military
(1959-1969) - 
contributions that assured the "mail would get thru", despite corruption
at the
federal gov't level. 

The point is that to the extent to which ham radio gets "dumbed down", the
nation becomes less secure.  For example, look at ham radio's
contribution at
times of natural and man-made emergencies.  But to the extent a ham
can't keep
his equipment running in less than "normal conditions", the less
valuable ham radio
becomes to the general public.

The FCC seems to have decided that ham radio licenses should be easier to
get, no matter what the overall skill levels of the new licensee might
be.  We must
hope this new philosophy proves to be wise.  But I, for one, am not so
sure.
Too many hams nowadays can't even read the color code on a resistor, much
less be able to keep their appliances operating when the going gets rough.

Having practically no $$, I salvaged old AM radios from the city dump to
build my
first xmitter from an article in a 1952 issue of CQ.  Nowadays, there
are no
articles like that in the remaining magazines.

So the times have changed.  And we have to hope it all works out for the
better.

73 - Bob, K6KL

On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM CDT, davemrtn
<davemrtn@centurytel.net> wrote:


Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??
--
David Martin - NA1MH <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/na1mh> - Mountain Home,
Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!
--
David Lininger, kb0zke
Rev. 2:10
kb0zke@gmail.com


Re: CQ Magazine

Ruth A Mumaw
 

I did., and it is always here near the end of month for which it was printed.  But I get digital very near the first of the month it is for.  Russ K3NLT



On September 3, 2018, at 2:16 PM, davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:


Is CQ Magazine faltering ?

This last Friday, 08/31/18, I received the August issue.

How many other people are receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?

Has anyone received the September issue ??
--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
>Professional Sports - An activity for small minds<
!! There is a reason it is called "Sports Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

ussv dharma
 

guess you do not know about Parentheses ....makes you messages so laborious to read that I do not bother.

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
MSGT. Susan Meckley, USA (Ret.)
W7KFI  & AFZ4SM
 

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 9/3/18, cornhusker via Groups.Io <cornhusker=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: Re: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine
To: "4SQRP.groups.io" <main@4SQRP.groups.io>
Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 6:47 PM

Dave,I
have been writing my Kit Building column for CQ Magazine
monthly for the past 9 years.  To be honest, I don't
know why there has been a persistent lateness in the
delivery of the print edition of the magazine.  Whatever
the reason, they do not share that information with those of
us who write for CQ.  Nor am I responsible for the CQ
contests, and any of their attendant controversies.  (yes,
I do hear about both at hamfests!)  The digital version
available through Zinio continues to be made available at
the first of the month.  I, too, get my print copy as late
as anybody else and get the digital version on Zinio always
on time.  For those wanting the digital version, I have
found the best solution is to view it on a PC or on an
iPad.  My iPad displays it clearly and quickly and lets me
zoom in to see more detail in the photos than is available
in the print edition.  I can keep many issues stored on my
tablet and can go back and read them while traveling, etc. 
The digital edition is less expensive than print, and with
many print magazines going away, the digital medium is one
we hams can embrace, since we are a technically minded
community.  Yes, by all means, contact the magazine
offices.  But, please do not blame those of us who have
worked diligently to produce what is still a very popular
and vital product for the amateur radio community.  Over
the years, I have reviewed and supported ALL of the Four
State kits in my column as well as mentioning Ozarkcon
several times, and the kitters can attest to this.  At
least try the digital version and see how it works for
you.  The newer Zinio software lets you either view it just
as it appears in print, or view text only in an easy to read
font.  In the text mode, it displays the text big enough to
easily read on my smartphone and still displays the photos
in a way they can be enlarged as well.  I won't debate
the relative value between QST and CQ.  Both publications
have their strengths and weaknesses.  But having the choice
of two major publications is healthy for amateur radio and
must continue.  I am a life member of ARRL and also write
for the ARRL Handbook.  We need to support both
publications through our membership in ARRL and our
subscription to CQ as well as other specialty publications
for amateur radio.  ARRL is also grappling with the high
cost of publishing magazines and books in print form.  It
is the same with every publisher.   Look at how popular
Kindles are.  We thought SSB was just a fad, and that AM
would continue to be the dominant mode for HF phone.  We
thought digital was just a niche mode and now FT8, a mode
designed for QRP, has pretty much dominated HF
communications and helped boost activity on 6M and other
bands we assumed were dead.  We as QRP operators and kit
builders should be open to at least trying digital magazine
delivery and embrace the new technology.  Finally, as I
have said years ago, I am not Dave Ingram.  I was as upset
as many other hams when I heard of the sudden passing of
W4TWJ a few years ago.  I don't have his talents in
circuit design but I share his enthusiasm for Amateur
radio.  He was indeed a big part of CQ.  I will do my best
to keep my columns interesting and educational and keep kit
building as well as QRP alive.  After all, that is what the
Four State QRP Group is all about.73 de
K0NEBJoe EisenbergKit Building Editor,
CQ Magazine





On Monday, September 3, 2018, 1:16:46 PM
CDT, davemrtn <davemrtn@centurytel.net> wrote:










Is CQ Magazine faltering ?
This last Friday, 08/31/18, I
received the August issue.
How many other people are
receiving LATE delivery of the magazine ?
Has anyone received the September
issue ??
--

David Martin - NA1MH
- Mountain Home, Ar.
-----------------------------------------

Wherever I go, there He is.

Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair

>Professional Sports - An activity for small
minds<

!! There is a reason it is called "Sports
Trivia" !!


Re: CQ Magazine

ussv dharma
 

It would seem to me you either like the magazine and subscribe, or you do not like the magazine and you do not subscribe
QUIT YOUR BITCHING

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
MSGT. Susan Meckley, USA (Ret.)
W7KFI  & AFZ4SM
 

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 9/3/18, Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> wrote:

Subject: Re: [4SQRP] CQ Magazine
To: main@4SQRP.groups.io
Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 6:38 PM

* On 2018 03 Sep 16:26 -0500, davemrtn wrote:
> If late delivery of printed issues
continues to be a thing, I will most
>
likely not resubscribe.
>
> I am holding a subscription renewal and
trying to decide if I want to
> renew,
firstly because of the cost and secondly because of
late/delayed
> deliveries.

Time was when it seemed the
issues would arrive almost six weeks before
the issue month.

In the '80s I was a subscriber to Ham Radio
when CQ bought it out.
Supposedly I was to
be compensated by a like number of issues of CQ.  I
never received a one.

I was a lifetime subscriber to WorldRadio when
CQ bought it.  Well, they
were so kind as
to supposedly extend my existing CQ subscription by
three years.  I never put a pencil to it, but
I don't think it quite
worked out as
they claimed.  They made WR a free downloadable PDF
which
was fine as it was in color and so
on.  After a couple of years they put
it
behind a digital pay wall (Zinio?).  Since I had no
assurance that I
could receive the product I
paid for while using Linux, I did not
subscribe.  WR ceased to exist soon after.  A
shame, really.

> I hate
not to support CQ Magazine with a subscription, but the 2
above
> mentioned items are weighing
heavily on my decision.

I
agree to a point, but they've taken me around the block
a couple of
times.  Forgive me if I
can't muster much sympathy.  Besides, the rag
lost a lot when Dave Ingram became a silent
key, though not their fault
as Dave was
simply irreplaceable.  I don't think CQ ever really
recovered from that blow, hence another reason
I'm not enthused about
sending them
money these days.

> As
far as electronic/digital issues, I absolutely will not
subscribe to
> any 'digital'
magazine that publishes in any format other than
'pdf'.

Agreed
100%.  The use of Zinio strikes me as a publisher believing
all
of their customers are crooks.  I could
accept a personalized
watermarked PDF but
will not accept Zinio.

72/73, Nate, N0NB

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optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is
true."

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