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Re: The Friendly Group

Bob Parr
 

I took the Beginner class this last time and it was a really good method, but you have to put in about an hour a day.  more it better.
 
Bob

> On 3/14/2020 11:18 AM, Jeff Collins wrote:
>> Thhheeennnn....going to attempt to learn Code again (like for the
>> 4th
>> time). Not sure if I will ever learn code. But I will give it
>> another
>> 6 months before throwing in the towel again for awhile.
>>
>>   Once I get past 4 or 5 letters they just blend together no
>> matter
>> what speed I try to learn at
>>
>
> Jeff --
>
> The Spring sessions of the (free) CWOps instructor led courses
> begin in
> April. I've taken both their introductory and beginner courses and
> found
> them to very useful. You still have to be willing to put in the
> effort
> but they have a format that works. The instructor from my first
> class
> posted a message on Facebook this morning that there are still
> openings.
>
> CW Academy https://cwops.org/
>
> Tim N9PUZ
>
>
>


Re: The Friendly Group

Tim N9PUZ
 

On 3/14/2020 11:18 AM, Jeff Collins wrote:
Thhheeennnn....going to attempt to learn Code again (like for the 4th time). Not sure if I will ever learn code. But I will give it another 6 months before throwing in the towel again for awhile.

    Once I get past 4 or 5 letters they just blend together no matter what speed I try to learn at
Jeff --

The Spring sessions of the (free) CWOps instructor led courses begin in April. I've taken both their introductory and beginner courses and found them to very useful. You still have to be willing to put in the effort but they have a format that works. The instructor from my first class posted a message on Facebook this morning that there are still openings.

CW Academy https://cwops.org/

Tim N9PUZ


Re: Group discussion

J.K. Wright
 

Let's hope coronavirus does not become ubiquitous to ham radio.


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 1:19 PM davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:

Around 5 years ago, we where having discussions about Raspberry Pi and Arduino, and the moderator shut down the conversation because he didn't think is was appropriate for the group, and directed everyone to take those discussions to groups for those devices.

Now those devices are ubiquitous in the Amateur Radio Hobby.


--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Psalms 111:10
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

- - - Goodbye Mitt Romney - - -


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Jeff Collins
 

Dear All,

    Just got a call from the Stone Castle canceling my reservation.

    I did not call them (I was going to call on Monday), they called me.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II

On 3/14/2020 12:12 PM, W9QS via Groups.Io wrote:

Must of just hit a couple of bad times.  Thanks for all the responses.  I will get it done on Monday.

72

Mike, W9QS


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:10 AM, jrdock@... <jrdock@...> wrote:

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


Pro

Jack R. Dock ... How about we give GOD a reason to continue blessing America?  In defense of America I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
"A veteran is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life."
                                                 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
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To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Group discussion

davemrtn <davemrtn@...>
 

Around 5 years ago, we where having discussions about Raspberry Pi and Arduino, and the moderator shut down the conversation because he didn't think is was appropriate for the group, and directed everyone to take those discussions to groups for those devices.

Now those devices are ubiquitous in the Amateur Radio Hobby.


--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Psalms 111:10
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

- - - Goodbye Mitt Romney - - -


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

W9QS
 

Must of just hit a couple of bad times.  Thanks for all the responses.  I will get it done on Monday.

72

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:10 AM, jrdock@... <jrdock@...> wrote:

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


Pro

Jack R. Dock ... How about we give GOD a reason to continue blessing America?  In defense of America I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
"A veteran is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life."
                                                 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
From: "W9QS via Groups.Io" <mbroga@...>
To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: The Friendly Group

keith ford
 

If we were closer I could teach you code in about 30 days time. 

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:18, Jeff Collins <w7grv@...> wrote:

Dear David,

    That is why there is a Moderator to keep things on topic.

    Getting ready to turn on the IC-7300 and try some digital for the first time ever.

    Thhheeennnn....going to attempt to learn Code again (like for the 4th time). Not sure if I will ever learn code. But I will give it another 6 months before throwing in the towel again for awhile.

    Once I get past 4 or 5 letters they just blend together no matter what speed I try to learn at.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II

On 3/14/2020 10:47 AM, davemrtn wrote:

The "Friendly Group", as long as you only talk about what the moderator allows !!!


--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Psalms 111:10
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

- - - Goodbye Mitt Romney - - -


Re: The Friendly Group

Jeff Collins
 

Dear David,

    That is why there is a Moderator to keep things on topic.

    Getting ready to turn on the IC-7300 and try some digital for the first time ever.

    Thhheeennnn....going to attempt to learn Code again (like for the 4th time). Not sure if I will ever learn code. But I will give it another 6 months before throwing in the towel again for awhile.

    Once I get past 4 or 5 letters they just blend together no matter what speed I try to learn at.

Thank you,

Jeffrey R. Collins - W7GRV
FCC(SW) USN, Ret.
BS, EMT-P, FF I/II

On 3/14/2020 10:47 AM, davemrtn wrote:

The "Friendly Group", as long as you only talk about what the moderator allows !!!


--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Psalms 111:10
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

- - - Goodbye Mitt Romney - - -


Re: The Friendly Group

J.K. Wright
 

Dave - You have a choice. There are plenty of sites that welcome politics. You can find "the friendly bunch" everyday on 75 meter ssb - 3921 or thereabouts. It's their frequency, just askem. That's their version of freedom!


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 11:47 AM davemrtn <davemrtn@...> wrote:

The "Friendly Group", as long as you only talk about what the moderator allows !!!


--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Psalms 111:10
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

- - - Goodbye Mitt Romney - - -


Re: Hotel reservations

AL7V
 

No problem here. "Chris" took my call and handled the cancellation. 800-677-6906 is the number I used.

Sam, AL7V


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM, W9QS via Groups.Io
<mbroga@...> wrote:
Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: [ADV] Re: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

jrdock@ckt.net
 

No, I called them 2 days ago on 417-335-4700 an was done with cancellation number in less than 2 min.  Seemed very easy.
 Jack. WD0CFH


Pro

Jack R. Dock ... How about we give GOD a reason to continue blessing America?  In defense of America I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
"A veteran is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life."
                                                 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:


Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
From: "W9QS via Groups.Io" <mbroga@...>
To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


Re: Hotel reservations

Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
 

As of 8:07 a.m. yesterday (Friday), the 800-677-6906 number WAS active.  I gave the lady my name and confirmation number, she quoted the last four-digits of my credit card which I confirmed, and she said, "okay, you're cancelled."  I thanked her and told her I'd see her next year.'

What has transpired since, I don't know.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



On 3/14/2020 10:42 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.





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Re: Hotel reservations

Dale Holloway, K4EQ
 

I called them as soon as I heard about the cancellation and got right through: 800-677-6906.
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Dale Holloway, K4EQ
www.k4eq.net


The Friendly Group

davemrtn <davemrtn@...>
 

The "Friendly Group", as long as you only talk about what the moderator allows !!!


--
David Martin - NA1MH - Mountain Home, Ar. -----------------------------------------
Wherever I go, there He is.
Psalms 111:10
Recycle, Reuse, Re-purpose, Repair
Neither Time nor Energy can be Recycled or Reused, don't waste either.

- - - Goodbye Mitt Romney - - -


Re: Hotel reservations

Jim Sheldon
 

Call them using their NON 800 number during business hours Monday thru Friday.  They are not open for the season yet so the phones are manned M-F during business hours only and I don't believe the 800# is active.

Jim - W0EB

PS I called them Thursday and had no problem contacting them or cancelling my reservations.



------ Original Message ------
From: "W9QS via Groups.Io" <mbroga@...>
To: "4 State QRP" <main@4sqrp.groups.io>
Sent: 3/14/2020 10:30:07 AM
Subject: [4SQRP] Hotel reservations

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


locked 4SQRP and Covid-19 #ADMIN

Tim N9PUZ
 

4SQRP and Covid-19

I think it is time that discussion on this list returns to Amateur Radio and QRP operations. We are all disappointed that Ozarkcon had to be cancelled. We all wish things can return to normal quickly. However, I think it is only appropriate that Covid-19 and Coronovirus topics be taken to an "amateur epidemiologist and infectious disease" forum or group. I'm certain those lists would be put out by us discussing QRP, antennas, etc. on their forums.

Thank you for your understanding. Now, let's go put some fire in our wires!

Tim N9PUZ
4SQRP Lists Co-Moderator


Hotel reservations

W9QS
 

Is anyone else having problems contacting the Stone Castle to cancel reservations?   


locked Re: Reluctantly not going to make it to 2020 Ozarkcon

Joshua Wood
 

You're right - numbers can be very slippery things.

Influenza numbers (number infected, mortality rate, etc) are all based on the CDC and WHO anticipated numbers - not those who are confirmed by testing.  Our mortality rate with COVID-19 is comparing deaths ONLY to those with confirmed cases - which shows an artificially higher rate (since we're testing / confirming in patients who show symptoms / having issues, and not the general population as a whole).  So you're right - the mortality rate can't be calculated by the current numbers we have - but it will most certainly be LOWER than it.

Based on the CDC's numbers for COVID-19 testing (which just so happens to be a re purposed test for SARS), we've collected / tested 12,500 samples, as of 3/8.  That's a lot more than "8" per The Hill.  (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html)

This is an email group about QRP, and particularly the 4SQRP - my hope was to show that even if there was a "massive" 85 fold increase (which is an arbitrary number, and out of context), there is still little reason to panic.  We should be focusing on enjoying QRP.  We should be listening to dedicated health professionals for medical information and advice - not business/political reporters, politicians, or political pundits.  We should be enjoying all aspects of our hobby (building, designing, operating).  And most importantly - we should be washing our hands.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

73,
~Josh
W0ODJ



On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:05 PM AndyH <awhecker@...> wrote:
Numbers can sometimes be slippery things.  Attempting to draw conclusions from incomplete data is fraught with even more time flat on the ice.

The 85-fold estimate came from a public health expert and was a prediction of one month's growth in the US - and only the US - infection rate. It is not valid to apply the US growth rate to the entire world.
Source:  https://youtu.be/IeQptwMbqlc?t=247
This link starts at about the 4 minute mark (after introductions). The following 14 minutes gives context for the 85 fold number.

The point is that the US is weeks behind much of the world, and about 2 weeks behind Italy.  Unlike Italy and most of the rest of the so-called 'developed world', we are not testing.  Two days ago only EIGHT tests were performed in the US as a whole (reported by The Hill).  There are reported to be about 40 cases in Florida, but those number aren't yet in the 'official' numbers being scraped to generate the dashboard at Johns Hopkins.  We're not testing, therefore our data are bad and that means conclusions of those data are invalid.

The attempted calculations for China and the rest of the world and the attempt to declare the flu has a higher death rate are not valid.  Why?  You began with 'confirmed cases', decided that reflected the actual number of  people "infected", and then used that number to determine the death rate.  Sorry - that doesn't work.  We don't know how many are infected.  

Based on what we've seen so far from countries doing much better than the US, this virus is working through most of the population, it's killing between 2% and 45% of those with confirmed cases, and some of the people that recover have permanent lung damage (20-30% less lung function).
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3

  The death rate for the 1918/1919 H1N1 pandemic is reported to be 2.5%.  So far, using the numbers reported by the Johns Hopkins 'dashboard', the death rate for this pandemic is 3.5%.  Based on the wide range of data discrepancies (Iran digging mass graves, anyone?) and that this pandemic is less than 2 months old, I wouldn't be surprised if the rate is closer to 7%.
  This isn't the flu.  It's not a hoax.  Coronavirus doesn't care how we vote.  Nobody needs to panic, but it is a serious situation that should not be taken lightly.

73, Andy

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 03:12 PM, Joshua Wood wrote:
I don't want to dog-pile on the hysteria (and social turmoil) of COVID-19, but:
 
In the last 30 days, China's infection rates have plateaued, and most are returning to work.  Johns Hopkins has a wonderful dashboard for data visualization that I recommend https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html.

If an 85 fold increase in infections holds true, in one month, 11 million people will have been infected - which is still only 0.0015% of the world population.
If an 85 fold increase in deaths holds true, in one month, 432,000 people will have died.  That's 2% of the number of people who died from the 1918 flu... and right in the average estimate for annual influenza deaths (per the WHO - https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(seasonal) ), and the same number (approximately) who died from the 2009 H1N1 (swine-flu) outbreak ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22738893 ).
Hubei province of china, the origination of COVID-19, and the source of 60% of all deaths from it worldwide (3,062 as of this email) - has had a total of 67,786 confirmed cases.  Since it has a population of 58.5 million people, that works out to just over 0.1% of their population having been infected.
Italy, the next highest reporter has had 15,113 confirmed cases, and 1,016 deaths.  With a 2011 census of 59.4 million, that works out to 0.025% of their population having been infected.

I think everyone should use caution, take appropriate precautions, and most importantly - wash their hands.  I think everyone should make decisions for themselves on what they feel safe doing.  I also think these are the same things that most health care professionals have been saying - for every infectious disease - every year - for decades.
 
I'm saddened that Ozarkcon has been canceled - but if there's a silver lining - We'll all now be able to participate in the Missouri QSO party, it looks like!  I'm expecting quite a good showing in the QRP category!  (Rules are here:  http://w0ma.org/images/MOQP2020/MO-QSO-Party-Rules-2020.pdf )
 
~Josh
W0ODJ
 
P.S. - When will be able to purchase the Cric-Keys online?  I can't wait to add one to my Crickets!


On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:13 AM AndyH <awhecker@...> wrote:
Exponential growth being what it is, every month we wait means there's an 85 fold increase in the number of infections.
https://www.albartlett.org/presentations/arithmetic_population_energy.html

You nailed it - an awful lot can happen in two months.  Behold the power of compounding.

73, Andy

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:14 PM, n4mj wrote:
May want to wait about saying Dayton (Xenia) won't happen.  That's in May, approximately 2 months away.  Lots can happen in 2 months.
73 de n4mj//glenn

 

 


Ozarkcon > Brutus Bash

Casey
 

Perhaps many of those that wanted to come to Ozarkcon can make it to the Brutus Bash.  Granted, it's not the same thing, but phun is fun in any form.

Ozarkcon falls too early in the year for me ($) typically. Likely all the Health Concerns will be dissipated especially as it gets (much) warmer. 

During the Bash, those not attending could dust off their Crickets (and PigRigs) and operate. 

I'm looking forward to the Bash. I plan to Attend if I can get 'my' Suspension Upgrade installed by then. 

Now, to go rewrite the Lyrics to 'the Monster Mash' 

72 de CaseyK KC9IH / WD9GKA


locked Re: Reluctantly not going to make it to 2020 Ozarkcon

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Hello Tim 
Not as of yesterday!
She is waiting Patiently.
73
Johnny 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 8:50 PM Timothy East <Timothyeast@...> wrote:
Johnny, does your wife have a call yet?

Tim


On Mar 13, 2020, at 12:04, Johnny Matlock <jomatlock@...> wrote:


This is Correct Dennis 
72
Johnny 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:38 AM Dennis Gaskill <gaskilldg@...> wrote:
I think OzarkCon is already canceled.
Am I right ?

Dennis KC0IFQ

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