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Re: Second Sunday Sprint on Sunday

Gary KF7WNS
 

S--ociety for the P--revention of C--ruelty to _______ (fill in  the blank)


Sorry,
Gary/KF7WNS


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Phil Anderson aldenmcduffie@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

John,

I've forgotten what" SPC" is in the exchange..............hi

Unc Phil



'John R. Lonigro' jonigro@... [4sqrp] wrote:

This coming Sunday is the 2nd Sunday of the month, which means it's
again time for the SECOND SUNDAY SPRINT (SSS).




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Re: Second Sunday Sprint on Sunday

Julio Jimenez
 

State, Province, Country

73
julio
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Sent from Mailbox


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Phil Anderson aldenmcduffie@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:

 

John,

I've forgotten what" SPC" is in the exchange..............hi

Unc Phil

'John R. Lonigro' jonigro@... [4sqrp] wrote:


This coming Sunday is the 2nd Sunday of the month, which means it's
again time for the SECOND SUNDAY SPRINT (SSS).




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Re: Second Sunday Sprint on Sunday

Phil Anderson
 

John,

I've forgotten what" SPC" is in the exchange..............hi

Unc Phil

'John R. Lonigro' jonigro@... [4sqrp] wrote:

This coming Sunday is the 2nd Sunday of the month, which means it's
again time for the SECOND SUNDAY SPRINT (SSS).




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Re: /mm this morning

dekle <dekle@...>
 

Hi Jim,
 
I heard a station about 20 minutes before the net start but he was 229.
I thought it was you but most probably was Bruce AA5CO in Tulsa.
Checking in to the SRN was no problem on the Alex Loop and the HB-1B with Al's booming signal from Tennessee.
It was windy and I had to keep turning the boat because it sounded like a better signal when the loop was broadside to the east.
My use of the "/mm" indicator opened up the usual bag of worms, but I'll probably continue use it.
After all, technically, the use of "/m" by hundreds of thousands of hams to indicate 'mobile' is technically a federal offense.
Anyway, next time I'll try to remember to give you a heads up, and, as the weather gets cooler I'll be out there more.
I'm so glad you joined the Four States group.
This group is so much fun and the members are the best bunch of people you'll ever meet in ham radio.
Maybe see you on the SSS this Sunday?
Good luck on the fox hunt tonight.
 
73
Bill
KV6Z
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:57 AM
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: /mm this morning

 

Hi Bill,

Sorry I missed you on the SRN - I was late getting in.  Always a treat to hear you /marine mobile.  

73,

Jim K4AXF
Ten-Tec Corsair,  G5RV
Grottoes, Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
Re: /mm this morning

Jim Stoneback <jstoneback@...>
 

Hi Bill,

Sorry I missed you on the SRN - I was late getting in.  Always a treat to hear you /marine mobile.  

73,

Jim K4AXF
Ten-Tec Corsair,  G5RV
Grottoes, Shenandoah Valley, Virginia

Second Sunday Sprint on Sunday

John Lonigro
 

This coming Sunday is the 2nd Sunday of the month, which means it's again time for the SECOND SUNDAY SPRINT (SSS).

REMEMBER: The person with the highest cumulative score between November, 2013 and September, 2014 is allowed to use the club callsign (WQ5RP) for the October 4x4 contest, if he so chooses. You have just 2 chances left to earn this honor.

Here are the details, which should be familiar to all by now:

Date/time: Sunday, 10 August, 2014, 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm CDT (0000 - 0200Z Monday).
Bands: 160M through 10M, no WARC bands or 60M.
Frequencies: The usual QRP watering holes - don't forget 7122 kHz and 3564 kHz.
Power: 5 Watts maximum.
Mode: CW or sideband.
Exchange: RST, SPC, and member number (members) or RST, SPC, power (non-members).
Calling CQ: "CQ 4S" recommended.

Note: Contacts with the same station on different bands are allowed. In case there is any sideband activity, the sideband and CW portions of the same band count as two separate bands. This rule will likely change for the 2015 SSS, to make it consistent with the October 4x4 sprint. If I recall correctly, there have been zero (0) sideband contacts all year. I doubt the change will affect anyone.

Reporting:
Add up your QSOs for each band/mode and send them to me. I'm requesting one additional piece of data: your QTH. It is interesting to see how widespread participation is in this sprint. Note: QTH (other than SPC) is not required for your exchange (not prohibited either). Just include YOUR QTH in your report.

With that in mind, a typical report would be:

Name: Fido
Call: K9MUT
QTH: Branson, MO
4SQRP number: 5280
Results:
40M CW: 2 QSOs
40M SSB: 1 QSO
80M CW: 1 QSO
80M SSB: 1 QSO
Total: 5 QSOs

You do not need to list the stations contacted. But if you make an exotic contact, you might as well brag about it in an optional bragging section at the bottom of your submittal. I'll include comments when I report the scores (no extra credit).

When you've totaled your score, please send it to: secondsundaysprint@4sqrp.com. Put "Sprint" in the subject line. Please avoid "replying" to one of my emails. The sprint results go to a separate mailbox. Send the results by midnight Wednesday morning. I'll tally everything and publish them on this reflector as soon as possible. I suggest you send them in shortly after 9:00 pm Sunday so you don't forget. If you see a mistake or omission when I publish the results, let me know and I'll fix it.

Keep this email until after you've submitted your score for Sunday. Remember, the person with the most SSS contacts between November, 2013 and September, 2014 will be allowed to use the club's callsign, WQ5RP, for the 4X4 sprint in October, 2014.

The SSS rules are posted on the 4SQRP website, under "4SQRP On Air Activities", just in case you delete this email.

72 and good luck in the contest,

John AA0VE
SSS Coordinator
Wed. night PSK checkins.

Dick Hammond
 

KA0KRN  David, Ottumwa, IA
AC0WZ  Dan, Fulton, MO
KC0IFQ Dennis, Augusta, KS
K6QKL Chuck, Fairview Hts, IL
QRM tonight  and competition.
Tnx for the checkins.
N0TGR Dick, Augusta, KS  NCS
Tonight's 40m net

Wayne Dillon
 

Boy the band was in rough shape tonight, here's what I got but I'm guaranteeing anything! Terry, was that you I copied, if it was you faded right out. Oh well, welcome to 40m in August.
WA0ITP Terry IA
WA9PWP Paul WI
KD0SZS Daniel MO
N0YJ Bert KS
If I missed you I'm sorry, maybe condx will be better next week.
Thank you one and all who tried, much appreciated but I just couldn't copy much.
72/3 es God Bless de Wayne - KC0PMH 

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QRP -  EFFICIENCY AND SKILL, NOT POWER. 
 
I'm British by birth but American by CHOICE!

Jesus came to pay a debt He didn't owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay...

The Lord bless you and keep you
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you
The Lord lift up his contenance upon you and give you peace.

God Bless from Wayne Dillon - KC0PMH

Joshua 24:14-15
2 Cor 5:17
1 Jn 2:17
 

4 State QRP Group NCS - 40m & 160m
4SQRP #95
FPQRP #342 (Flying Pigs QRP Club)
NAQCC # 0759
QRP-ARCI #11505
SKCC #1155T
SOC #848
30MDG#1176
NEQRP #693
GORC #192
DMC (Digital Modes Club) # 06686
Re: /mm this morning

dekle <dekle@...>
 


Actually............no.
It's also the prefix assigned to United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and, as such, its appendage as a self-assigned identifier is a no-no.
 
Bill
KV6Z
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] /mm this morning

 

I guess /mm for marine mobile is good. As different from Maritime Mobile.

Don HC4/W4BWS


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM, dekle@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

Hi Chip,
 
Actually Part 97 does address self-assigned indicators.
 
Here is Paragraph (c) from 47 CFR 97.119 :
 

(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any

suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and after, the call sign. No self assigned

indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned to another country.

 

What this means is that an operator can include any indicator with their callsign that they wish with two exceptions:

1. It doesn't conflict with any other FCC rule, or

2. It doesn't conflict with another country's prefix.

 

I couldn't find where the FCC has designated /mm for anything, but I'm still looking.

On the other hand, using your suggested "/m" would definitely be out of the question!

That designator conflicts with the one-character prefix assigned to United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and, as such, its appendage as a self-assigned identifier would be non-compliant with Section 97.119(c). So - no dice on the /m thing.

I thought about using :

"  de  KV6Z/iminatwelvefootkayakonlakeoologahandimhavingagreattimedoggoneit"

but I fear this is a bit too long.

As always, there is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

If I end up in Radio Prison, I only hope some sympathetic 4S member will bake me a cake with a HB-1B in it and slip it to me under the bars when the Feds aren't looking.

 

73

Bill

KV6Z/mm

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: CStratton
To: KV6Z
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] /mm this morning

Hi Bill -

I don't believe there is anything in Part 97 about /MM, just as I don't think there is anything about attaching /M after your callsign when operating mobile (correct me if I'm wrong!). I think it simply comes down to customary usage. I do know that when asking for a phone patch via the Maritime Mobile Service Network on 14.300, the net controller wanted me to confirm that I was truly /MM, i.e. not in Bahamas territorial waters (which I was near) since such a connection to a 3rd party non-ham would not have been legal under Bahamas law. In any event, maritime definitely refers to the sea as opposed to inland bodies of waters, FWIW.

73
Chip




On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:56 PM, <dekle@...> wrote:
Howdy Chip,

This is an interesting topic. Can you direct me to the part 97 ruses so I
can review this question?

Bill



> Bill -
>
> Just to be OCD, you are really just /M not /MM. To be /MM (maritime
> mobile)
> you have to be out of any territorial waters, i.e. more than 3 nm
> offshore.
>
> Fair Winds!
> Chip
> AE5KA
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Bruce Winkelman bdwink@... [4sqrp] <
> 4sqrp@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dang! Good morning, Bill....have fun. Tried a quick call to you on 7122
>> and 7123 around 07:40am but no luck. Gotta go to work now.....this
>> retirement "gig" is sounding better every day :-) . How's that KX3
>> doing? Do you think Santa would be able to put one together this year??
>>
>> 72/73,
>> Bruce AA5CO
>>
>>  
>>   ------------------------------
>> Posted by: Bruce Winkelman <bdwink@...>
>> ------------------------------
>>     Reply via web post




--
Dr. Don W4BWS

Re: /mm this morning

Donald Sanders
 

I guess /mm for marine mobile is good. As different from Maritime Mobile.

Don HC4/W4BWS


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM, dekle@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

Hi Chip,
 
Actually Part 97 does address self-assigned indicators.
 
Here is Paragraph (c) from 47 CFR 97.119 :
 

(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any

suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and after, the call sign. No self assigned

indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned to another country.

 

What this means is that an operator can include any indicator with their callsign that they wish with two exceptions:

1. It doesn't conflict with any other FCC rule, or

2. It doesn't conflict with another country's prefix.

 

I couldn't find where the FCC has designated /mm for anything, but I'm still looking.

On the other hand, using your suggested "/m" would definitely be out of the question!

That designator conflicts with the one-character prefix assigned to United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and, as such, its appendage as a self-assigned identifier would be non-compliant with Section 97.119(c). So - no dice on the /m thing.

I thought about using :

"  de  KV6Z/iminatwelvefootkayakonlakeoologahandimhavingagreattimedoggoneit"

but I fear this is a bit too long.

As always, there is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

If I end up in Radio Prison, I only hope some sympathetic 4S member will bake me a cake with a HB-1B in it and slip it to me under the bars when the Feds aren't looking.

 

73

Bill

KV6Z/mm

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: CStratton
To: KV6Z
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] /mm this morning

Hi Bill -

I don't believe there is anything in Part 97 about /MM, just as I don't think there is anything about attaching /M after your callsign when operating mobile (correct me if I'm wrong!). I think it simply comes down to customary usage. I do know that when asking for a phone patch via the Maritime Mobile Service Network on 14.300, the net controller wanted me to confirm that I was truly /MM, i.e. not in Bahamas territorial waters (which I was near) since such a connection to a 3rd party non-ham would not have been legal under Bahamas law. In any event, maritime definitely refers to the sea as opposed to inland bodies of waters, FWIW.

73
Chip




On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:56 PM, <dekle@...> wrote:
Howdy Chip,

This is an interesting topic. Can you direct me to the part 97 ruses so I
can review this question?

Bill



> Bill -
>
> Just to be OCD, you are really just /M not /MM. To be /MM (maritime
> mobile)
> you have to be out of any territorial waters, i.e. more than 3 nm
> offshore.
>
> Fair Winds!
> Chip
> AE5KA
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Bruce Winkelman bdwink@... [4sqrp] <
> 4sqrp@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dang! Good morning, Bill....have fun. Tried a quick call to you on 7122
>> and 7123 around 07:40am but no luck. Gotta go to work now.....this
>> retirement "gig" is sounding better every day :-) . How's that KX3
>> doing? Do you think Santa would be able to put one together this year??
>>
>> 72/73,
>> Bruce AA5CO
>>
>>  
>>   ------------------------------
>> Posted by: Bruce Winkelman <bdwink@...>
>> ------------------------------
>>     Reply via web post




--
Dr. Don W4BWS

Re: /mm this morning

dekle@...
 

Hi Chip,
 
Actually Part 97 does address self-assigned indicators.
 
Here is Paragraph (c) from 47 CFR 97.119 :
 

(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any

suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and after, the call sign. No self assigned

indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned to another country.

 

What this means is that an operator can include any indicator with their callsign that they wish with two exceptions:

1. It doesn't conflict with any other FCC rule, or

2. It doesn't conflict with another country's prefix.

 

I couldn't find where the FCC has designated /mm for anything, but I'm still looking.

On the other hand, using your suggested "/m" would definitely be out of the question!

That designator conflicts with the one-character prefix assigned to United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and, as such, its appendage as a self-assigned identifier would be non-compliant with Section 97.119(c). So - no dice on the /m thing.

I thought about using :

"  de  KV6Z/iminatwelvefootkayakonlakeoologahandimhavingagreattimedoggoneit"

but I fear this is a bit too long.

As always, there is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

If I end up in Radio Prison, I only hope some sympathetic 4S member will bake me a cake with a HB-1B in it and slip it to me under the bars when the Feds aren't looking.

 

73

Bill

KV6Z/mm

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: CStratton
To: KV6Z
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] /mm this morning

Hi Bill -

I don't believe there is anything in Part 97 about /MM, just as I don't think there is anything about attaching /M after your callsign when operating mobile (correct me if I'm wrong!). I think it simply comes down to customary usage. I do know that when asking for a phone patch via the Maritime Mobile Service Network on 14.300, the net controller wanted me to confirm that I was truly /MM, i.e. not in Bahamas territorial waters (which I was near) since such a connection to a 3rd party non-ham would not have been legal under Bahamas law. In any event, maritime definitely refers to the sea as opposed to inland bodies of waters, FWIW.

73
Chip




On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:56 PM, <dekle@...> wrote:
Howdy Chip,

This is an interesting topic. Can you direct me to the part 97 ruses so I
can review this question?

Bill



> Bill -
>
> Just to be OCD, you are really just /M not /MM. To be /MM (maritime
> mobile)
> you have to be out of any territorial waters, i.e. more than 3 nm
> offshore.
>
> Fair Winds!
> Chip
> AE5KA
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Bruce Winkelman bdwink@... [4sqrp] <
> 4sqrp@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dang! Good morning, Bill....have fun. Tried a quick call to you on 7122
>> and 7123 around 07:40am but no luck. Gotta go to work now.....this
>> retirement "gig" is sounding better every day :-) . How's that KX3
>> doing? Do you think Santa would be able to put one together this year??
>>
>> 72/73,
>> Bruce AA5CO
>>
>>  
>>   ------------------------------
>> Posted by: Bruce Winkelman <bdwink@...>
>> ------------------------------
>>     Reply via web post
Re: /mm this morning

glene77is@...
 

 Chip
AE5KA

"more than 3 nm offshore.? 

What is "nm"     Nano Meters ?    Nautical Meters ? 

Of course, just being a 'ham', never occurred to me
 it is Nautical Miles.  
Length being longer because of going up and down on the waves. 

Just a little humor
Glen Ellis, KK4LPG
Re: /mm this morning

random.path
 

Bill -

Just to be OCD, you are really just /M not /MM. To be /MM (maritime mobile) you have to be out of any territorial waters, i.e. more than 3 nm offshore.

Fair Winds!
Chip
AE5KA


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Bruce Winkelman bdwink@... [4sqrp] <4sqrp@...> wrote:
 

Dang! Good morning, Bill....have fun. Tried a quick call to you on 7122
and 7123 around 07:40am but no luck. Gotta go to work now.....this
retirement "gig" is sounding better every day :-) . How's that KX3
doing? Do you think Santa would be able to put one together this year??

72/73,
Bruce AA5CO
Re: /mm this morning

Bruce Winkelman <bdwink@...>
 

Dang! Good morning, Bill....have fun. Tried a quick call to you on 7122 and 7123 around 07:40am but no luck. Gotta go to work now.....this retirement "gig" is sounding better every day :-) . How's that KX3 doing? Do you think Santa would be able to put one together this year??

72/73,
Bruce AA5CO
/mm this morning

dekle@...
 

I'm going to be in the kayak for a while this morning. I'll start by trying to check into the Sunrise Net on 7123 at 1300z. After that, I'll call CQ around 7122 for a while and if there's nothing happening there, I'll change to 20m around 14060 and call until it gets too hot to stay out there. Hope to hear you. 73, Bill, KV6Z.
Re: NOT QRP!

Tom Sevart
 

On 08/05/2014 19:35, Roy Crosier valvetimer@gmail.com [4sqrp] wrote:
Here is a clip where a high power shortwave station suffers the breakage
of a wire in a curtain antenna. When workers investigated, the found
that they could hear the modulation in the fire produced as the RF sought
ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWm0M6ae-g&;feature=youtu.be
Wow, that's amazing. If you didn't know any better you'd think you were hearing voices in your head standing next to that.

--
Tom Sevart N2UHC
St. Paul, KS
NOT QRP!

Roy AC9DN
 

Here is a clip where a high power shortwave station suffers the breakage
of a wire in a curtain antenna. When workers investigated, the found
that they could hear the modulation in the fire produced as the RF sought
ground.



Roy
AC9DN
Re: RMRc 2200z 14.0625 today

Dale Putnam
 

I had lightning within 10 here.. so we were a short net.. I was running 75w.. 
Maybe we will have better luck on Thurs!
Hope to c u then.

Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 


To: 4sqrp@...
From: 4sqrp@...
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:19:01 -0700
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: RMRc 2200z 14.0625 today

 
I was putting my 20m on MFJ on my trike (pedal) this afternoon with a ham stick. Not sure of the frequency, midway, and it was quiet in North Texas. ??

72 de Scott/n7net
Re: RMRc 2200z 14.0625 today

Scott ..
 

I was putting my 20m on MFJ on my trike (pedal) this afternoon with a ham stick. Not sure of the frequency, midway, and it was quiet in North Texas. ??

72 de Scott/n7net
Re: RMRc 2200z 14.0625 today

Dale Putnam
 

 Wow.. I thought the band was in good shape.. but for the Tstorm ... I was running 75 watts too...
maybe Thursday?
Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 


To: 4sqrp@...
From: 4sqrp@...
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:05:21 -0700
Subject: [4sqrp] Re: RMRc 2200z 14.0625 today

 
Dale,
No joy this afternoon, wx is clear and warm, but noise S5-S8. I tried, could almost tell that someone was in there.
Darryl, KK5IB
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