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Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Wayne Dillon
 

Mornin' Unc,
Most (if not all) logging  programs have the facility to export in ADIF format. I use GenLog for the NAQCC sprints and export in ADIF  so that I can add to my ACLog. By the way, ACLog and the others in his suite are all compatible (by the way N3FJP is Scott Davis). It will interface with your FT450 to grab frequency and mode. He's up to 4.6 currently and his support is terrific.
Another $0.02 from a satisfied user (customer).
God Bless de Wayne - KC0PMH


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Phil Anderson <aldenmcduffie@...> wrote:
 

Interesting Curt and TNX.............4sqrp is a real resource!

I'm about settled on using both LOTW and eQSL, seems that of the tens of reponses I've gotten,
mostly from this reflector.  have gone that way. Makes sense.  I'm curious about the ADIF format
and will look into that just for fun. I'm also about settled on using the Amateur Contact Log, AC4.x, by
Dave Cole, N3FJP. Read a good review on that at NK7Z's blog page - http://nk7z.net/

Our local club, W0UK, has used an older version of N3FJP's  Field Day program for contesting.
I want a compatible contesting program to go along with AC4.x.......or some other combination,
so your comments are helpful. TNX agn.

72, Phil Anderson, W0XI
Lawrence, KS






wb8yyy@... wrote:


Phil


If you are still shopping for a pc log program, another one to
consider is winlog32. It is probably more well known in UK where
author lives. If your rig has a rs232 or usb link to the pc, it will
grab its freq and mode. Noteworthy is that it automates upload and
download to lotw. The upload feature can grab those qsos since your
last upload to put them into the adi format, and the download lets
your log know what qsos are confirmed in lotw. Most log programs use
adi so later you can switch. Also I use adi to copy qsos from my
contest log software n1mm to winlog32 my regular log. Using a pc log
to recall info from previous contacts is nice.

73 Curt




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Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Phil Anderson
 

Interesting Curt and TNX.............4sqrp is a real resource!

I'm about settled on using both LOTW and eQSL, seems that of the tens of reponses I've gotten,
mostly from this reflector.  have gone that way. Makes sense.  I'm curious about the ADIF format
and will look into that just for fun. I'm also about settled on using the Amateur Contact Log, AC4.x, by
Dave Cole, N3FJP. Read a good review on that at NK7Z's blog page - http://nk7z.net/

Our local club, W0UK, has used an older version of N3FJP's  Field Day program for contesting.
I want a compatible contesting program to go along with AC4.x.......or some other combination,
so your comments are helpful. TNX agn.

72, Phil Anderson, W0XI
Lawrence, KS






wb8yyy@... wrote:


Phil


If you are still shopping for a pc log program, another one to
consider is winlog32. It is probably more well known in UK where
author lives. If your rig has a rs232 or usb link to the pc, it will
grab its freq and mode. Noteworthy is that it automates upload and
download to lotw. The upload feature can grab those qsos since your
last upload to put them into the adi format, and the download lets
your log know what qsos are confirmed in lotw. Most log programs use
adi so later you can switch. Also I use adi to copy qsos from my
contest log software n1mm to winlog32 my regular log. Using a pc log
to recall info from previous contacts is nice.

73 Curt


Re: Freezing Rain

KK0S
 

Don't put your shovel up just yet, and it might also be a good thing to keep a bag of salt close at hand.  Old Man Winter isn't ready to QRT just yet.

Bruce
KK0S


Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Curt
 

Phil

If you are still shopping for a pc log program, another one to consider is winlog32.  It is probably more well known in UK where author lives.  If your rig has a rs232 or usb link to the pc, it will grab its freq and mode.  Noteworthy is that it automates upload and download to lotw.  The upload feature can grab those qsos since your last upload to put them into the adi format, and the download lets your log know what qsos are confirmed in lotw.  Most log programs use adi so later you can switch.  Also I use adi to copy qsos from my contest log software n1mm to winlog32 my regular log.  Using a pc log to recall info from previous contacts is nice.  

73 Curt


Re: RMRc today - 14.0625 2300z

Larry Clement W2LAC
 

You too Dale.

Larry  W2LAC  Long Island, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Putnam
To: 4sqrp <4sqrp@...>
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 5:02 pm
Subject: [4sqrp] RMRc today - 14.0625 2300z

 


Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 


Re: Freezing Rain

Timothy-Allen Albertson <kd0oia@...>
 

today, T 218, its 64F her ein Council Blufs, Iowa

72/73 TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSON
KDOIA/(ex KG6IRH)



On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Dan Reynolds <on30ng@...> wrote:
 

Getting freezing rain in central IL today. I couldn't get out of my driveway to get to work. Wind is picking up now. Hopefully it will get in the 30's as they forecast.



Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Wayne Dillon
 

Phil and the Group,
I also upload to both and using ACLog makes it easy. The advantage of ACLog is that it's largely intuitive, it also has the ability to "talk" to your radio. To reiterate Jeremy's sage advice, go LOTW and when it's set up BACK-UP the Certificate!
Just my $0.02 worth, I have no pecuniary interest in ACLog, just a very satisfied user.
72/3 es God Bless de Wayne - KC0PMH
PS. If you are looking for an easy use contest logger then have a look at GenLog, no radio control or  other fancy stuff but an awful good piece of software. I use it in the NAQCC sprints. Above disclaimer applies.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Phil Anderson <aldenmcduffie@...> wrote:
 


Hi 4sqrpers..........

I've been researching on "best" logging programs and whether to
go with LOTW or eQSL for uploading QSO data. There is lots of
junk mail about these subjects on the various forums; ; however,
I found a nicely balanced review of Logbook of the World (ARRL)
at NK7Z's side:

http://nk7z.net/review-of-arrl-log-book-of-the-world

Over the years, Dale's reviews have been good.

Curious what some of you might be using if any?

unc Phil, W0xi, Lawrence, KS





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Jesus came to pay a debt He didn't owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay...

The Lord bless you and keep you
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you
The Lord lift up his contenance upon you and give you peace.

God Bless from Wayne Dillon - KC0PMH

Joshua 24:14-15
2 Cor 5:17
1 Jn 2:17
 

4 State QRP Group NCS - 40m & 160m
4SQRP #95
FPQRP #342 (Flying Pigs QRP Club)
G-QRP-C #11504
NAQCC # 0759
QRP-ARCI #11505
SKCC #1155C
SOC #848
30MDG#1176
NEQRP #693
GORC #192
DMC (Digital Modes Club) # 06686


Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Jeremy Utley
 

ARRL will *never* recognize eQSL, not without a massive change in their architecture.  LOTW runs as a "double-blind" type of system - you submit your logs, others submit theirs, and if the details of 2 logs match - you then have a confirmed QSL.  The use of the TQSL software to "sign" the log submissions means that, ideally at least, noone but you is submitting that log file.  eQSL is quite different in that regard - if someone uploads a contact with me, i will see that contact show up in my inbox available to be confirmed.  There's no validation (signing) of submitted logs to eQSL either.

From a technical standpoint, LOTW is the more "secure" system.  From an ease-of-use standpoint, eQSL wins by a landslide.  Since the ARRL awards carry so much prestige in the amateur radio community, I'm not really surprised they chose the more secure solution.

LOTW is not that difficult - takes about 10 minutes of activity, and a week or so of waiting for the postcard from ARRL.  The problems with changing computers, well, that's because nobody takes the advice of backing up their certificate after they do the initial setup - if you take that one small step, and put that backup file somewhere safe, it's a 5-minute process to set up TQSL on a new computer.

If anyone's having problems setting up LOTW/TQSL, I'd be happy to help out!  Computers are my day job, and a passion!

Jeremy, NQ0M
in Beautiful downtown Iola, KS

On 2/17/2014 6:35 PM, Charlie , W5COV wrote:
 

I upload to both with my logging program.

My rate of return is substantially higher, especially from DX stations on eQSL.

The setup process for LOTW is lengthy and I have heard of many people having problems even getting it to run . You of course have to wait to get the post card in the mail from the ARRL. The TQSL that you MUST have, has been a problem area for changing computers and doing upgrades when your authorization expires.

They have you over the proverbial barrel though, since they will not recognize eQSL contacts if you want any ARRL awards.

It is a decent program once you get it up and running.

eQSL is quick and easy to do. I like it better for all around setup and use.

They have to offer their own awards since the ARRL LOTW doesn't recognize them.

The REAL solution is for the ARRL to catch up with the people that started this service, eQSL and recognize contacts confirmed through them.

It is the best possible solution for the good of ALL ham radio operators, like I said mainly for DX stations.

Both are good programs and make logging and confirmation much quicker and easier, when you run with a good logging program.

Why can't everyone just get along and drop the Elite attitude ?

Charlie, W5COV


On 2/17/2014 6:16 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:
 

I actually upload to both.  But keep in mind, that LOTW and eQSL aren't logging programs, but rather "QSO Matching Servces".  Without a logging program to upload to those services, they are next to useless.  Most popular logging programs for general use in my book are N3FJP's ACLog, HamRadioDeluxe, and DXKeeper.  I like ACLog for the simplicity - never really cared for the layout of HRD or DXKeeper.  With ACLog, at the end of each operating session, I punch a few buttons and upload all my contacts to both LOTW and eQSL.  When the other person also uploads their data, I end up with a confirmed QSO that's useable for awards.

Jeremy

On 2/17/2014 6:00 PM, Phil Anderson wrote:
 


Hi 4sqrpers..........

I've been researching on "best" logging programs and whether to
go with LOTW or eQSL for uploading QSO data. There is lots of
junk mail about these subjects on the various forums; ; however,
I found a nicely balanced review of Logbook of the World (ARRL)
at NK7Z's side:

http://nk7z.net/review-of-arrl-log-book-of-the-world

Over the years, Dale's reviews have been good.

Curious what some of you might be using if any?

unc Phil, W0xi, Lawrence, KS






Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Dale Putnam
 

HI Phil,
  I have been using Win32, N1MM for general logging and contests.. am looking into DX Commander.. for the 
ability to control the radio from the computer... 
the learning curve for Win32 was pretty easy... the learning curve for N1MM was pretty much read the manual.. 
and read the reflector, the curve for DX Commander .. at the very beginning.. looks rather steep.. NOT intuitve.
Good Luck! 
Win32 does the eQSL and LoTW with just a couple of mouse clicks... very easy, after the initial setup, that much follow 
the instructions.


Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 



To: 4sqrp@...
CC: W0UK@...
From: aldenmcduffie@...
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:00:07 -0600
Subject: [4sqrp] Logbook of the world versus eQSL

 

Hi 4sqrpers..........

I've been researching on "best" logging programs and whether to
go with LOTW or eQSL for uploading QSO data. There is lots of
junk mail about these subjects on the various forums; ; however,
I found a nicely balanced review of Logbook of the World (ARRL)
at NK7Z's side:

http://nk7z.net/review-of-arrl-log-book-of-the-world

Over the years, Dale's reviews have been good.

Curious what some of you might be using if any?

unc Phil, W0xi, Lawrence, KS




Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Charlie Vest
 

I upload to both with my logging program.

My rate of return is substantially higher, especially from DX stations on eQSL.

The setup process for LOTW is lengthy and I have heard of many people having problems even getting it to run . You of course have to wait to get the post card in the mail from the ARRL. The TQSL that you MUST have, has been a problem area for changing computers and doing upgrades when your authorization expires.

They have you over the proverbial barrel though, since they will not recognize eQSL contacts if you want any ARRL awards.

It is a decent program once you get it up and running.

eQSL is quick and easy to do. I like it better for all around setup and use.

They have to offer their own awards since the ARRL LOTW doesn't recognize them.

The REAL solution is for the ARRL to catch up with the people that started this service, eQSL and recognize contacts confirmed through them.

It is the best possible solution for the good of ALL ham radio operators, like I said mainly for DX stations.

Both are good programs and make logging and confirmation much quicker and easier, when you run with a good logging program.

Why can't everyone just get along and drop the Elite attitude ?

Charlie, W5COV


On 2/17/2014 6:16 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:
 

I actually upload to both.  But keep in mind, that LOTW and eQSL aren't logging programs, but rather "QSO Matching Servces".  Without a logging program to upload to those services, they are next to useless.  Most popular logging programs for general use in my book are N3FJP's ACLog, HamRadioDeluxe, and DXKeeper.  I like ACLog for the simplicity - never really cared for the layout of HRD or DXKeeper.  With ACLog, at the end of each operating session, I punch a few buttons and upload all my contacts to both LOTW and eQSL.  When the other person also uploads their data, I end up with a confirmed QSO that's useable for awards.

Jeremy

On 2/17/2014 6:00 PM, Phil Anderson wrote:
 


Hi 4sqrpers..........

I've been researching on "best" logging programs and whether to
go with LOTW or eQSL for uploading QSO data. There is lots of
junk mail about these subjects on the various forums; ; however,
I found a nicely balanced review of Logbook of the World (ARRL)
at NK7Z's side:

http://nk7z.net/review-of-arrl-log-book-of-the-world

Over the years, Dale's reviews have been good.

Curious what some of you might be using if any?

unc Phil, W0xi, Lawrence, KS





Re: Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Jeremy Utley
 

I actually upload to both.  But keep in mind, that LOTW and eQSL aren't logging programs, but rather "QSO Matching Servces".  Without a logging program to upload to those services, they are next to useless.  Most popular logging programs for general use in my book are N3FJP's ACLog, HamRadioDeluxe, and DXKeeper.  I like ACLog for the simplicity - never really cared for the layout of HRD or DXKeeper.  With ACLog, at the end of each operating session, I punch a few buttons and upload all my contacts to both LOTW and eQSL.  When the other person also uploads their data, I end up with a confirmed QSO that's useable for awards.

Jeremy

On 2/17/2014 6:00 PM, Phil Anderson wrote:
 


Hi 4sqrpers..........

I've been researching on "best" logging programs and whether to
go with LOTW or eQSL for uploading QSO data. There is lots of
junk mail about these subjects on the various forums; ; however,
I found a nicely balanced review of Logbook of the World (ARRL)
at NK7Z's side:

http://nk7z.net/review-of-arrl-log-book-of-the-world

Over the years, Dale's reviews have been good.

Curious what some of you might be using if any?

unc Phil, W0xi, Lawrence, KS




Logbook of the world versus eQSL

Phil Anderson
 


Hi 4sqrpers..........

I've been researching on "best" logging programs and whether to
go with LOTW or eQSL for uploading QSO data. There is lots of
junk mail about these subjects on the various forums; ; however,
I found a nicely balanced review of Logbook of the World (ARRL)
at NK7Z's side:

http://nk7z.net/review-of-arrl-log-book-of-the-world

Over the years, Dale's reviews have been good.

Curious what some of you might be using if any?

unc Phil, W0xi, Lawrence, KS



Re: Freezing Rain

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Gm Dan 
Good day to play radio!!
72
Johnny AC0BQ


On Monday, February 17, 2014, Dan Reynolds <on30ng@...> wrote:
 

Getting freezing rain in central IL today. I couldn't get out of my driveway to get to work. Wind is picking up now. Hopefully it will get in the 30's as they forecast.

73
Dan -- KB9JLO



--
QRP....."more smiles per watt"


Freezing Rain

Dan Reynolds
 

Getting freezing rain in central IL today. I couldn't get out of my driveway to get to work. Wind is picking up now. Hopefully it will get in the 30's as they forecast.


Re: Echos on 15 meters

Jim Sheldon
 

I wasn't QRP either this time. I'm field testing some new K3 and their high power antenna tuner firmware in the contest so I was actually running 600 watts at the time. Having fun playing with the big boys in this one. Right now taking a coffee break. Last QSO rate was 72/hr. That's actually a personal best for me. Propagation on all bands but 160 has been phenomenal. Been a long time since ALL bands were open for an entire contest weekend!

Jim - W0EB

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:42 AM, "Pat" <pmk@juno.com> wrote:

That is always cool! I remember the first time I experienced that I was loading up a linear on 15 to do some RTTY back in the day and was quite amazed. And of coarse it came back a few Hz down.

Never experienced that QRP though.

72
Pat KD4OBQ

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ARRL DX Contest.....

Phil Anderson
 

You are correct Jim,

It is the ARRL DX contest; what fun!

unc Phil.


Re: 15 minutes of QRP fun

Dale Putnam
 

197 Qs and 98 mults ..  with 9 hrs invested... 
all dressed up with a Bow Tie.

Have a great day,
 
 
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 



To: 4sqrp@...; bdwink@...
From: jomatlock@...
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 08:33:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [4sqrp] 15 minutes of QRP fun

 
Good job Bruce.
I heard the contest but didnt join in.
72
Johnny AC0BQ


On Saturday, February 15, 2014, Bruce Winkelman <bdwink@...> wrote:
 
Dipped my toes into the 15 meter cw pond late this afternoon and had my
15 minutes of QRP fame. Worked Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Brazil and Curacao
in that order between 0035 and 0050Z 16FEB14. Used the TenTec Argo 556
at 3-4 watts (depending on which meter one believes! ) and a 40 meter
inverted vee, center at 33 feet. The QSO with Guam certainly makes the
1000 MPW club and, if one of the meters is to believed (3 watts), it's a
solid 2000 MPW at 7200+ miles from Tulsa.

Now this is FUN!! Granted, these were contest stations with hundreds of
feet of aluminum tubing way up in the air but ....It still amazes me
that a simple 40 meter inverted vee, excited by a "night-light" power
transmitter can make the circuit over 7200 miles out into the vast
Pacific. *This* is why I love radio!

72/73,
Bruce AA5CO
Tulsa, OK




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Re: 15 minutes of QRP fun

Johnny AC0BQ
 

Good job Bruce.
I heard the contest but didnt join in.
72
Johnny AC0BQ


On Saturday, February 15, 2014, Bruce Winkelman <bdwink@...> wrote:
 

Dipped my toes into the 15 meter cw pond late this afternoon and had my
15 minutes of QRP fame. Worked Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Brazil and Curacao
in that order between 0035 and 0050Z 16FEB14. Used the TenTec Argo 556
at 3-4 watts (depending on which meter one believes! ) and a 40 meter
inverted vee, center at 33 feet. The QSO with Guam certainly makes the
1000 MPW club and, if one of the meters is to believed (3 watts), it's a
solid 2000 MPW at 7200+ miles from Tulsa.

Now this is FUN!! Granted, these were contest stations with hundreds of
feet of aluminum tubing way up in the air but ....It still amazes me
that a simple 40 meter inverted vee, excited by a "night-light" power
transmitter can make the circuit over 7200 miles out into the vast
Pacific. *This* is why I love radio!

72/73,
Bruce AA5CO
Tulsa, OK



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Re: Echos on 15 meters

KD4OBQ
 

That is always cool! I remember the first time I experienced that I was loading up a linear on 15 to do some RTTY back in the day and was quite amazed. And of coarse it came back a few Hz down.

Never experienced that QRP though.

72
Pat KD4OBQ

AR
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Echos on 15 meters

Jim Sheldon
 

Prop is so long tonight on 15 that I can tap the key with a short dit and actually hear my echo coming back all the way around!  10 is still open a bit to the Far East as well!
 
Jim - W0EB
 

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