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Re: Today's the day 117 years ago

 

* On 2018 12 Dec 18:05 -0600, Wayne Dillon wrote:
On this day in 1901 Guglielmo Marconi
<https://www.history.com/topics/inventions/guglielmo-marconi> sent his
famous and successful successful transatlantic wireless transmission from
Poldu in England's county of Cornwall (Far SW point in England) to
Newfoundland In Canada.
It's a fascinating story to be sure and one we've all heard, but did it
really happen as thought? This article offers conjecture of what may
have really happened:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2001/dec/11/highereducation.news

The conjecture is that the planned frequency to use was in the lower
half of the present AM broadcast band and that these frequencies are
limited in the day time due to D layer absorption. At 12:30 PM
Newfoundland time almost the entire transatlantic path was in sunlight
but by 2:20 PM a good portion would have been in darkness and the sun
getting low in the sky at Newfoundland. Also, being very crude by
modern standards, the Cornwall transmitter may have been generating
harmonics well into the upper MW/lower HF spectrum. Likewise the
receiver at Newfoundland was hardly selective and with a 500 foot wire
may have been capable of receiving into the upper MW/lower HF range as
well. As a result of this conjecture it is conjectured that the he may
well have heard the intended signal but on frequencies far removed from
his intent!

From experience we know that 200 to 100 meters could very well have had
propagation beginning to open especially by 2:20 PM. Of course, we
don't know what the solar flux, K or A indices were for that day but it
is known that it was a period of minimum sunspots (like now) and that no
magnetic storms had taken place in the ten days prior (from:
https://books.google.com/books?id=0vTRMlzf3SoC&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=sunspots+december+1901&source=bl&ots=5mudvEGgdn&sig=jL34GH5OIXjwM3kSAz4mK6-QeXU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPnOed8pzfAhUIzoMKHXgsBrY4ChDoATAAegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=sunspots%20december%201901&f=false
), so something actually happening near our present 160m band--give or
take--seems most plausible to me.

72, Nate

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Re: Today's the day 117 years ago

 

The second link is unweildly, here is the original:

http://www.antentop.org/files/fam002.pdf

You can scroll down to page 8 of the PDF to begin reading about the
transatlantic tests. Page 10 is where the Google Books link leads.

Sorry for not finding the original sooner.

72, Nate

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possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."

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test

Richard Dickerson
 

Re: test

Dick Hammond
 

GM Richard, good to see you.  Dick,  n0tgr


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Re: test

Richard Dickerson
 

You too!   Miss our PSK net

On Dec 13, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Dick Hammond <n0tgr2@...> wrote:

GM Richard, good to see you.  Dick,  n0tgr

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:40 AM Richard Dickerson <richard.dickerson@...> wrote:





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Sked Anyone?

WA0ITP
 

Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
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Test - too quiet, pse reply

WA0ITP
 

Testing - just wondering if the reflector is working or if I somehow deleted my folder contents

TIA
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Re: Test - too quiet, pse reply

Paul Smith
 

Ur 599 in rainy Kansas de Paul

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From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:22 PM
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Test - too quiet, pse reply
 
Testing - just wondering if the reflector is working or if I somehow deleted my folder contents

TIA
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Re: Sked Anyone?

Paul Smith
 

I have been working a few guys along Terry,
 i just worked WA9FET on 7050 for a December SKCC brag de Paul


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From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:48 PM
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

Re: Test - too quiet, pse reply

N5VMO Pat
 

Same here - 599 and raining here in Fort Smith de Pat

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:23 PM Paul Smith <n0nbd@...> wrote:
Ur 599 in rainy Kansas de Paul

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:22 PM
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Test - too quiet, pse reply
 
Testing - just wondering if the reflector is working or if I somehow deleted my folder contents

TIA
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Re: Sked Anyone?

w2sh@...
 



From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 15:48
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

Re: Sked Anyone?

w2sh@...
 

Where is SEIA?  Google only gives the Solar Energy Industries Association.  So mebbe southeast Iowa?

72,

Charles (aka Chas), W2SH


From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 15:48
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

Re: Sked Anyone?

WA0ITP
 

southeast Iowa?  you got it, sri to be so vague.
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
On 12/13/2018 3:58 PM, w2sh@... wrote:

Where is SEIA?  Google only gives the Solar Energy Industries Association.  So mebbe southeast Iowa?

72,

Charles (aka Chas), W2SH

From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 15:48
To: 4sqrpio
Subject: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

Re: Test - too quiet, pse reply

Don, W9EBK
 

Tia, QSL. It's working. 


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 3:22 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@... wrote:
Testing - just wondering if the reflector is working or if I somehow deleted my folder contents

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

Re: Sked Anyone?

Johnny Matlock
 

I can be on around 7:00 tonight.
3564?
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:48 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

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Re: Sked Anyone?

Paul Smith
 

I will be listening 3564 at 7 de Paul


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:49 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
I can be on around 7:00 tonight.
3564?
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:48 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com

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Re: Sked Anyone?

WA0ITP
 

Yes, tnx, been a long time since we worked each other, sri I have been lax in operating.  cu at 7 on 3564
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
On 12/13/2018 4:49 PM, Johnny Matlock wrote:

I can be on around 7:00 tonight.
3564?
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:48 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
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Re: Sked Anyone?

WA0ITP
 

FB, Johnny will be in there also, I hope.
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
On 12/13/2018 5:10 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

I will be listening 3564 at 7 de Paul


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From: main@4SQRP.groups.io <main@4SQRP.groups.io> on behalf of Johnny Matlock <jomatlock@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:49 PM
To: main@4sqrp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?
 
I can be on around 7:00 tonight.
3564?
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:48 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
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Re: Sked Anyone?

kim arbaugh
 

I am normally on in the evening around 6:00Pm on 7005khz

72/Fred/KA4RUR
 




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From: WA0ITP <wa0itp@...>
To: main <main@4SQRP.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: [4SQRP] Sked Anyone?

Yes, tn x, been a long time since we worked each other, sri I have bee n lax in operati ng.  cu at 7 on 3564
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
On 12/13/2018 4:49 PM, Johnny Matlock wrote:
I can be on around 7:00 tonight.
3564?
Johnny AC0BQ 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:48 PM WA0ITP <wa0itp@...> wrote:
Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
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Sked results on 3564

WA0ITP
 

At 6p I was able to work N0XM, Mike from Wichita he was abt an S4 early on, rising to S9 near the end. I was much weaker on his end. 

At abt 6:45 I heard some GA stations at S7

At 7P I listened and called for AC0BQ and N0NBD, but no joy.

Conclusion? None, the sample size is too small.  But it may indicate that the band goes long after 6 or so.  Or my antenna needs maintenance, or it may mean nothing.  But is was fun trying.  Tnx Mike for the call, appreciate it. 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com
On 12/13/2018 2:48 PM, WA0ITP wrote:

Time for me to quit grouching about the propagation and try to do something about it.  Anyone want to try a sked from the Four State area into SEIA? Anyday, anytime, and any band.  I suspect 80M at about 6 or 7P would work ok.

TIA
-- 
72 WAØITP
I love this radio stuff.
www.wa0itp.com
www.4sqrp.com