John and Jerry:
I just checked the kit page on the 4SQRP website and the "builder's
alert" clearly states that if it sends V2 at startup, it is one of
the early chips that had been incorrectly programmed. However, it
also states that it may still function, but not as stably as the
corrected chip, so Jerry probably has a functional device, only not
as good as it would be with the corrected software.
You are right that contacting Steve, KD1JV, might be the best way to
get the updated chip, if it is still available. Or, as Jerry
suggests, if Steve doesn't mind, he could send Jerry the code so he
could reprogram it himself. He may not wish to do that if the code
is "proprietary" to someone.
DON'T FORGET! The August Second Sunday SPRINT is this Sunday night,
7:00-9:00pm CDT.
72,
John, AA0VE
4SQRP Contest Coordinator
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On 8/6/20 7:27 AM, John - KK4ITX via
groups.io wrote:
Jerry,
Dan Taylor, N7VE and Steve Weber, KD1JV were
responsible for putting this dipper package together. Both of
them show on QRZ with email addresses. Perhaps they can help
?
V2 would’t be the battery voltage by chance ?
Good luck,
John
KK4ITX
Chapter Two: One step forward and one
step back
The PIC wasn't to blame for the silence.
I put a scope on the output from the 74HC00 (pin 3) to
the speaker. Pressing and holding the program button
produced a stream of
raggedy but lovely square waves
(amplitude ~2-3Vpp). Clearly the PIC was sending Morse
as it was supposed to.
The problem had to be a faulty speaker.
I removed it and temporarily put an LED in its place. It
clearly flashed Morse. Then I connected a different
speaker. It worked fine, and I thought I had the
problem solved.
But no. On power up, the chip sends
"V2". Oops, that's not the right ID. According to a
note that came with the kit, it indicates the PIC was
one of an early batch that were
incorrectly programmed.
So I'm back where I started, still
needing a correctly programmed PIC, or alternatively,
the code.
Thanks for reading.
Jerry AA6KI
Tucson
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John - KK4ITX
Thanks John for stepping in, I had checked the 4S site and did not see the page you referenced, I found my information on Duck Duck Go.
Is the “Builder’s Alert” Page a general resource ?
I’ll be there for the SSS but the noise here at this campground is is a real challenge.
John
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On Aug 6, 2020, at 09:46, John Lonigro < jonigro@...> wrote:
John and Jerry:
I just checked the kit page on the 4SQRP website and the "builder's
alert" clearly states that if it sends V2 at startup, it is one of
the early chips that had been incorrectly programmed. However, it
also states that it may still function, but not as stably as the
corrected chip, so Jerry probably has a functional device, only not
as good as it would be with the corrected software.
You are right that contacting Steve, KD1JV, might be the best way to
get the updated chip, if it is still available. Or, as Jerry
suggests, if Steve doesn't mind, he could send Jerry the code so he
could reprogram it himself. He may not wish to do that if the code
is "proprietary" to someone.
DON'T FORGET! The August Second Sunday SPRINT is this Sunday night,
7:00-9:00pm CDT.
72,
John, AA0VE
4SQRP Contest Coordinator
On 8/6/20 7:27 AM, John - KK4ITX via
groups.io wrote:
Jerry,
Dan Taylor, N7VE and Steve Weber, KD1JV were
responsible for putting this dipper package together. Both of
them show on QRZ with email addresses. Perhaps they can help
?
V2 would’t be the battery voltage by chance ?
Good luck,
John
KK4ITX
Chapter Two: One step forward and one
step back
The PIC wasn't to blame for the silence.
I put a scope on the output from the 74HC00 (pin 3) to
the speaker. Pressing and holding the program button
produced a stream of
raggedy but lovely square waves
(amplitude ~2-3Vpp). Clearly the PIC was sending Morse
as it was supposed to.
The problem had to be a faulty speaker.
I removed it and temporarily put an LED in its place. It
clearly flashed Morse. Then I connected a different
speaker. It worked fine, and I thought I had the
problem solved.
But no. On power up, the chip sends
"V2". Oops, that's not the right ID. According to a
note that came with the kit, it indicates the PIC was
one of an early batch that were
incorrectly programmed.
So I'm back where I started, still
needing a correctly programmed PIC, or alternatively,
the code.
Thanks for reading.
Jerry AA6KI
Tucson
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bleepingbeep
John and John: Thanks for your remarks. I have been in touch with Steve KD1JV, and he said the code was not his but was added by 4SQRP. In fact it was written by Dan Tayloe. Another ham whose opinion I respect said that as far as he knew, the code was never released.
I received this Tenna Dipper from a ham who built it but had no luck in getting even a tiny spark of life. It was completely dead. So I bought it for the price of mailing and took it on as an exercise in troubleshooting. Even though I haven't had 100% success, it's been a gratifying project. I appreciate knowing that it may yet be functional.
Regards,
Jerry AA6KI 4SQRP no. 261
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John: If you go to the kit section of the 4SQRP website, there’s a section called “retired kits”. Under “Tenna Dipper” is a link called Builders Alert. That’s where I found that note. 72,
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On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:00 AM, John - KK4ITX via groups.io <jleahy00@...> wrote:
Thanks John for stepping in, I had checked the 4S site and did not see the page you referenced, I found my information on Duck Duck Go.
Is the “Builder’s Alert” Page a general resource ?
I’ll be there for the SSS but the noise here at this campground is is a real challenge.
John KK4ITX On Aug 6, 2020, at 09:46, John Lonigro < jonigro@...> wrote:
John and Jerry:
I just checked the kit page on the 4SQRP website and the "builder's
alert" clearly states that if it sends V2 at startup, it is one of
the early chips that had been incorrectly programmed. However, it
also states that it may still function, but not as stably as the
corrected chip, so Jerry probably has a functional device, only not
as good as it would be with the corrected software.
You are right that contacting Steve, KD1JV, might be the best way to
get the updated chip, if it is still available. Or, as Jerry
suggests, if Steve doesn't mind, he could send Jerry the code so he
could reprogram it himself. He may not wish to do that if the code
is "proprietary" to someone.
DON'T FORGET! The August Second Sunday SPRINT is this Sunday night,
7:00-9:00pm CDT.
72,
John, AA0VE
4SQRP Contest Coordinator
On 8/6/20 7:27 AM, John - KK4ITX via
groups.io wrote:
Jerry,
Dan Taylor, N7VE and Steve Weber, KD1JV were
responsible for putting this dipper package together. Both of
them show on QRZ with email addresses. Perhaps they can help
?
V2 would’t be the battery voltage by chance ?
Good luck,
John
KK4ITX
Chapter Two: One step forward and one
step back
The PIC wasn't to blame for the silence.
I put a scope on the output from the 74HC00 (pin 3) to
the speaker. Pressing and holding the program button
produced a stream of
raggedy but lovely square waves
(amplitude ~2-3Vpp). Clearly the PIC was sending Morse
as it was supposed to.
The problem had to be a faulty speaker.
I removed it and temporarily put an LED in its place. It
clearly flashed Morse. Then I connected a different
speaker. It worked fine, and I thought I had the
problem solved.
But no. On power up, the chip sends
"V2". Oops, that's not the right ID. According to a
note that came with the kit, it indicates the PIC was
one of an early batch that were
incorrectly programmed.
So I'm back where I started, still
needing a correctly programmed PIC, or alternatively,
the code.
Thanks for reading.
Jerry AA6KI
Tucson
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